Conflicted Caregiving: Forgiving Illness

Breaking the Silence: Childhood Sexual Abuse and Forgiveness

When Andy Woodward showed remarkable talent for football as a boy, it brought him to the attention of the coach who sexually abused him for years. After bottling up his emotions and suffering panic attacks on the football pitch, Andy made the extraordinary journey from silence to speaking out on a public stage. How did he find the courage to confront a powerful coach and a prominent football organization in the UK? In this podcast Andy talks about transforming pain through the practice of forgiveness. ANDY WOODWARD Andy Woodward blew the whistle on the sexual abuse of junior players in British football in 2016. His story helped spark a global conversation about the misuse of authority and trust in sports, and gave a voice to countless survivors who needed to be heard. Through his book Position of Trust [https://www.amazon.com/Position-Trust-football-dream-betrayed/dp/147369969X] and the BBC drama Floodlights [https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/justwatch-16289312], Andy is inspiring people worldwide with the message that healing is possible and each of us can help create a safer future. LEARN MORE ABOUT ANDY Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/andy.woodward.965] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/andywoodward444/?hl=en] Tiktok [https://www.tiktok.com/@andywoodward25] Andy’s book: “Position of Trust [https://www.amazon.com/Position-Trust-football-dream-betrayed/dp/147369969X]” BBC drama: “Floodlights [https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/justwatch-16289312]” DR. FRED LUSKIN Dr. Fred Luskin is the director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. He’s also the author of the bestselling books, Forgive for Good [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X] and Forgive for Love [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Love-Missing-Ingredient-Relationship/dp/B084Q5S6CF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4HA753M8B4QP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZL7hH9865-fvzhx2SLDUS9VxwQHysaMdb6jhvvy8KmfNkBiWRfTCJHAgexUIhySlUpJMw74dj8eirkbWv0AqDlYea2bBccWrv8KKuKNM1BTOt_fGYZdB9nwBQCtzHYa9hRqUVVmQ57gKXL_GgmztUhzeM88q1hVR4pkZuYEEcX6FSf-wQvX0ek7T5MGlF1n9sG9Zsxk96h0RYuFCgJve_QABOD-Q3wc6d5frt9WIXU.Nf-_39fSmwrba22E8-qYbR-rLM8E9Lz3dLtVqOE_Wvc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Forgive+for+Love&qid=1773077014&s=books&sprefix=forgive+for+love,stripbooks,180&sr=1-1]. Forgive for Good is the best-selling self-help book published on the topic of forgiveness. Fred has been interviewed hundreds of times in worldwide media, including The New York Times, O Magazine, the Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Huffington Post, and he has been featured on the Today Show and CBS Morning News. Learn more at fredluskin.com [http://fredluskin.com]. DR. EILEEN BORRIS Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change. BE PART OF EILEEN’S COMMUNITY Subscribe to Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace podcast on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-forgiveness-voices-of-peace/id1803432392], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/15AhrbHVfzUP1y1YQVT8uu], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EileenBorris], or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Political Forgiveness newsletter at drborris.com [http://drborris.com] or on LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/political-forgiveness-monthly-6887703642170810368/]. Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Heart of Peace 00:15 Meet Andy Woodward 01:58 Football Dream Turns Dark 03:30 Trapped in Systemic Abuse 06:08 Aftermath and Breaking Silence 10:02 From Exposure to Forgiveness 13:13 Spirituality and Purpose 22:10 Energy Balance Practices 25:38 Final Takeaways and Closing

Healing Dysfunctional Families Through Compassion and Forgiveness

In this moving and ultimately beautiful epsiode, two guests share intimate stories about growing up in dysfunctional families shaped by the emotional volatility of one parent — and the journey toward healing and forgiveness. Parva Moshiri grew up with an unpredictable mother whose periodic tantrums and rages would ignite conflict and fear. As a child, Parva became the family’s mediator. As an adult, she became a caretaker for both parents and eventually a therapist herself. In this episode, Eileen and Fred work directly with Parva to help her take the first steps in her own forgiveness process. Judith Janssen was raised by a father whose anger and dominance overshadowed family life, while her mother’s despair became so overwhelming that she attempted suicide when Judith was 11 years old. Judith would crank up Metallica in her headphones as a teenager to drown out the sound of their fighting. Over time, however, she discovered something unexpected: compassion for the father who had wounded her. Today, she looks back on her story with gratitude for the wisdom and resilience that helped shape her into the coach and facilitator she has become. This episode offers a powerful reminder that forgiveness does not excuse harmful behavior. Rather, it can help us release old burdens, reclaim our own lives and find meaning even in the most difficult family histories. JUDITH JANSSEN Judith Janssen is an experienced trauma-informed coach and facilitator specializing in leadership development and forgiveness. Based on her own life journey, she built a business in 2009 called U-turn Coaching & Personal Development, including a profound forgiveness training called Letting Shit Go. Her focus is on helping people to overcome trauma, learn how to forgive, and treat themselves with love, kindness, and self-compassion. Connect with Judith at u-turncoaching.com [http://u-turncoaching.com]. PARVA MOSHIRI Parva Moshiri was born in Tehran and eventually moved to the United States to continue her education after completing high school in London. She has a master’s degree in education and psychology, has worked at the Department of Child and Family Services, and has had a private therapy practice. DR. FRED LUSKIN Dr. Fred Luskin is the director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. He’s also the author of the bestselling books, Forgive for Good [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X] and Forgive for Love [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Love-Missing-Ingredient-Relationship/dp/B084Q5S6CF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4HA753M8B4QP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZL7hH9865-fvzhx2SLDUS9VxwQHysaMdb6jhvvy8KmfNkBiWRfTCJHAgexUIhySlUpJMw74dj8eirkbWv0AqDlYea2bBccWrv8KKuKNM1BTOt_fGYZdB9nwBQCtzHYa9hRqUVVmQ57gKXL_GgmztUhzeM88q1hVR4pkZuYEEcX6FSf-wQvX0ek7T5MGlF1n9sG9Zsxk96h0RYuFCgJve_QABOD-Q3wc6d5frt9WIXU.Nf-_39fSmwrba22E8-qYbR-rLM8E9Lz3dLtVqOE_Wvc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Forgive+for+Love&qid=1773077014&s=books&sprefix=forgive+for+love,stripbooks,180&sr=1-1]. Forgive for Good is the best-selling self-help book published on the topic of forgiveness. Fred has been interviewed hundreds of times in worldwide media, including The New York Times, O Magazine, the Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Huffington Post, and he has been featured on the Today Show and CBS Morning News. Learn more at fredluskin.com [http://fredluskin.com]. DR. EILEEN BORRIS Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change. BE PART OF EILEEN’S COMMUNITY Subscribe to Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace podcast on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-forgiveness-voices-of-peace/id1803432392], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/15AhrbHVfzUP1y1YQVT8uu], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EileenBorris], or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Political Forgiveness newsletter at drborris.com [http://drborris.com] or on LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/political-forgiveness-monthly-6887703642170810368/]. Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Stuck But Shifting Perspective 00:19 Welcome And Meet The Guests 03:13 Parva Childhood With Rage 05:59 Boundaries And Mother’s Death 08:05 What Forgiveness Means Now 10:07 Judith Dysfunctional Childhood 11:34 Caregiver Role And Loss 14:25 Escape To Buenos Aires 15:26 Anger Marathon Turning Point 16:30 Reframing And Forgiving Dad 18:40 Boundaries After Forgiveness 19:49 Patterns Victim To Hero 23:29 Victimhood And Moral Superiority 26:24 Repression And Self Forgiveness 29:08 Superpower Of Caring Love 31:09 Final Takeaways And Closing

Conflicted Caregiving: Forgiving Illness

Blood is thicker than water—and family also has the unique power to push all of our buttons. In this episode two guest share candidly about a beast rarely spoken of: resentment against ourselves or loved ones going through illness. Karen Krebs is still working to forgive herself and her body through multiple rounds of cancer treatment and graciously accepts on-the-spot coaching from Fred and Eileen. Barbara Hunt was finally able to overcome her stiff upper lip and emotional denial and recognize underlying resentment at caring for her aging mother. This set her on a path of becoming a forgiveness specialist herself. This very special episode is inspiration for anyone in the middle of a forgiveness process, and in the end finding the beauty and balance between self-love and being a caretaker. KAREN KREBS Karen Krebs is a healthcare executive with more than 30 years of experience in behavioral health and medicine, committed to helping individuals and families access treatment, begin recovery, and rebuild their lives. She brings a compassionate, informed perspective to navigating today’s complex healthcare system. With roots in New York and Massachusetts, Karen now resides in West Seattle, where she is a devoted caregiver to her 94-year-old father, who lives with her. BARBARA J HUNT Barbara J Hunt is a forgiveness specialist and advocate, speaker, workshop leader, global peace visionary, award-winning and bestselling author of “Forgiveness Made Easy: The Revolutionary Guide to Moving Beyond Your Past and Truly Letting Go.” She has over 30 years experience in personal and spiritual development as a mentor, coach and group facilitator. She works in private practice internationally, and is also a musician and singer-songwriter. Connect with Barbara at forgivenessmadeeasy.co.uk [http://forgivenessmadeeasy.co.uk] and her YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@barbara_j_hunt]. DR. FRED LUSKIN Dr. Fred Luskin is the director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. He’s also the author of the bestselling books, Forgive for Good [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X] and Forgive for Love [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Love-Missing-Ingredient-Relationship/dp/B084Q5S6CF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4HA753M8B4QP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZL7hH9865-fvzhx2SLDUS9VxwQHysaMdb6jhvvy8KmfNkBiWRfTCJHAgexUIhySlUpJMw74dj8eirkbWv0AqDlYea2bBccWrv8KKuKNM1BTOt_fGYZdB9nwBQCtzHYa9hRqUVVmQ57gKXL_GgmztUhzeM88q1hVR4pkZuYEEcX6FSf-wQvX0ek7T5MGlF1n9sG9Zsxk96h0RYuFCgJve_QABOD-Q3wc6d5frt9WIXU.Nf-_39fSmwrba22E8-qYbR-rLM8E9Lz3dLtVqOE_Wvc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Forgive+for+Love&qid=1773077014&s=books&sprefix=forgive+for+love,stripbooks,180&sr=1-1]. Forgive for Good is the best-selling self-help book published on the topic of forgiveness. Fred has been interviewed hundreds of times in worldwide media, including The New York Times, O Magazine, the Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Huffington Post, and he has been featured on the Today Show and CBS Morning News. Learn more at fredluskin.com [http://fredluskin.com]. DR. EILEEN BORRIS Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change. BE PART OF EILEEN’S COMMUNITY Subscribe to Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace podcast on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-forgiveness-voices-of-peace/id1803432392], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/15AhrbHVfzUP1y1YQVT8uu], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EileenBorris], or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Political Forgiveness newsletter at drborris.com [http://drborris.com] or on LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/political-forgiveness-monthly-6887703642170810368/]. Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Emotional Shutdown 00:15 Season Two Welcome 00:55 Caregiving and Illness 01:25 Meet Karen and Barbara 02:52 Karen Cancer Wakeup Call 06:05 Caregiver Stress and Resentment 06:56 Self Forgiveness Struggle 09:32 Barbara Young Caregiver Story 11:06 Resentment and Forgiveness Path 12:29 Host Reflections on Caregiving 17:10 Choosing Caregiving 20:30 Tools for Self Forgiveness 21:53 Culture Duty and Boundaries 23:41 Resentment as a Signal 25:23 Freedom and Choice Reframing 27:38 Final Messages and Takeaways 32:46 Closing Thanks and Resources

A Sudden Disorienting Heartbreak: Lisa Angelini

When Lisa Angelini’s relationship ended without warning, her world turned upside down. In this candid conversation Lisa admits she expected years of training and spiritual practice would shield her—she was shocked by betrayal, anger, grief, and all the layers of emotion she couldn’t skip. What she found on the other side was something quieter: freedom, calm, and the ability to wish him well. Even in the middle of our own messy humanity, forgiveness is the door back to that quiet center. LISA ANGELINI Lisa Angelini is a licensed psychotherapist, trauma specialist, and relationship expert who brings a rare blend of clinical precision and spiritual depth to her work. With over two decades of experience, her clinical foundation includes advanced training in trauma and codependency at The Meadows in Wickenburg, an internationally recognized treatment center. Her background spans residential treatment, community-based settings, private practice, and leading transformational retreats in the U.S. and internationally. Where to Find Lisa Angelini: Website [https://www.lisaangelini.com] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/lisaangelinilpc] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/lisa.angelini/] DR. FRED LUSKIN Dr. Fred Luskin is the director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. He’s also the author of the bestselling books, Forgive for Good [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X] and Forgive for Love [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Love-Missing-Ingredient-Relationship/dp/B084Q5S6CF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4HA753M8B4QP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZL7hH9865-fvzhx2SLDUS9VxwQHysaMdb6jhvvy8KmfNkBiWRfTCJHAgexUIhySlUpJMw74dj8eirkbWv0AqDlYea2bBccWrv8KKuKNM1BTOt_fGYZdB9nwBQCtzHYa9hRqUVVmQ57gKXL_GgmztUhzeM88q1hVR4pkZuYEEcX6FSf-wQvX0ek7T5MGlF1n9sG9Zsxk96h0RYuFCgJve_QABOD-Q3wc6d5frt9WIXU.Nf-_39fSmwrba22E8-qYbR-rLM8E9Lz3dLtVqOE_Wvc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Forgive+for+Love&qid=1773077014&s=books&sprefix=forgive+for+love,stripbooks,180&sr=1-1]. Forgive for Good is the best-selling self-help book published on the topic of forgiveness. Fred has been interviewed hundreds of times in worldwide media, including The New York Times, O Magazine, the Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Huffington Post, and he has been featured on the Today Show and CBS Morning News. Learn more at fredluskin.com [http://fredluskin.com]. DR. EILEEN BORRIS Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change. BE PART OF EILEEN’S COMMUNITY Subscribe to Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace podcast on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-forgiveness-voices-of-peace/id1803432392], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/15AhrbHVfzUP1y1YQVT8uu], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EileenBorris], or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Political Forgiveness newsletter at drborris.com [http://drborris.com] or on LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/political-forgiveness-monthly-6887703642170810368/]. Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Betrayal And Shock 00:28 Season Two Welcome 01:08 Meet Lisa Angelini 01:49 Rumi Quote And Walls 03:54 Therapy And Co Parenting 05:04 Family Models Of Forgiveness 07:56 Sudden Heartbreak Story 09:25 Dream Of Scotland 11:02 Real Betrayal Revealed 11:31 Thawing Out The Nervous System 14:00 IFS And False Invulnerability 15:25 Messy Middle And Anger 17:37 Layers Of Forgiveness 19:02 Freedom And Quiet Mind 20:31 Gems On The Other Side 21:28 Humility And Acceptance 23:49 Writing The Book To Serve 24:49 Lean In And Get Support 25:34 Contact And Closing Thanks 26:24 Podcast Outro And Subscribe

Shedding the Victim Story: Lyndon Harris on Forgiveness After 9/11

Welcome to Season 2 of Voices of Peace: Personal Forgiveness, with a new name, a new focus and a new co-host, Fred Luskin. Our first guest is Lyndon Harris. Lyndon was an Episcopal priest in New York City when his life after 9/11 fell apart. He dealt with PTSD, personal injustice, divorce, and losing his house — yet until he hit rock bottom, he never thought about forgiveness. When he finally did, forgiveness changed his life in the most amazing way. LYNDON HARRIS Lyndon Harris is a former Episcopal priest, whose journey toward forgiveness began in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. His work was covered widely in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and a host of others. But in the aftermath of 9/11, Lyndon’s life fell apart. Forgiveness became the essential tool for reclaiming his life. Harris is a forgiveness teacher now and has been invited to offer keynotes and workshops around the world. He is co-author, with Dr. Luskin of the Forgive for Good Recovery Workbook [https://www.newharbinger.com/9781648483974/the-forgive-for-good-recovery-workbook/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23331102223&gbraid=0AAAAADsfoaVdsbFPNIFb9WrC7dQsU5tFM&gclid=Cj0KCQjw37nNBhDkARIsAEBGI8NnclyYnrpvf8FpSw5CHkWM77HL5b38ZKxOa63Xrew89Uy5i-QynBYaAg6DEALw_wcB]. Learn more at lyndonharris.com [http://lyndonharris.com] Pre-order Lyndon’s memoir, release date June 2026: Forgiveness at Ground Zero: A Journey of Service, Loss, and Redemption after 9/11 [https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/forgiveness-at-ground-zero-9798216278979/] DR. FRED LUSKIN Dr. Fred Luskin is the director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. He’s also the author of the bestselling books, Forgive for Good [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X] and Forgive for Love [https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Love-Missing-Ingredient-Relationship/dp/B084Q5S6CF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4HA753M8B4QP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZL7hH9865-fvzhx2SLDUS9VxwQHysaMdb6jhvvy8KmfNkBiWRfTCJHAgexUIhySlUpJMw74dj8eirkbWv0AqDlYea2bBccWrv8KKuKNM1BTOt_fGYZdB9nwBQCtzHYa9hRqUVVmQ57gKXL_GgmztUhzeM88q1hVR4pkZuYEEcX6FSf-wQvX0ek7T5MGlF1n9sG9Zsxk96h0RYuFCgJve_QABOD-Q3wc6d5frt9WIXU.Nf-_39fSmwrba22E8-qYbR-rLM8E9Lz3dLtVqOE_Wvc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Forgive+for+Love&qid=1773077014&s=books&sprefix=forgive+for+love,stripbooks,180&sr=1-1]. Forgive for Good is the best-selling self-help book published on the topic of forgiveness. Fred has been interviewed hundreds of times in worldwide media, including The New York Times, O Magazine, the Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Huffington Post, and he has been featured on the Today Show and CBS Morning News. Learn more at fredluskin.com [http://fredluskin.com]. DR. EILEEN BORRIS Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change. BE PART OF EILEEN’S COMMUNITY Subscribe to Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace podcast on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-forgiveness-voices-of-peace/id1803432392], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/15AhrbHVfzUP1y1YQVT8uu], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EileenBorris], or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Political Forgiveness newsletter at drborris.com [http://drborris.com] or on LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/political-forgiveness-monthly-6887703642170810368/]. Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness [https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?] TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Forgiving Imperfection 00:14 Season Two Kickoff 00:49 Meet Fred and Lyndon 02:55 Lyndon Before 9 11 04:40 Witnessing the Attacks 07:56 St. Pauls Relief Mission 09:16 Conflict and Resignation 12:31 Bitterness and Revenge 15:47 Life Falls Apart 18:47 Rock Bottom and Gratitude 22:31 Self Forgiveness Breakthrough 26:35 New Mission and Love 28:41 Advice for the Stuck 30:13 What Forgiveness Means Now 32:33 Closing and Resources