Postgame - A Sidequest.zone Podcast
Welcome back to Postgame, Sidequest’s monthly-ish podcast where the editors lay down hot takes on cold games. Maddi, Melissa, and Zora have been playing games! Some of them are Dragon Age, which means a disproportionate amount of this podcast is devoted to Dragon Age. Melissa and Zora would say they’re sorry, but the truth is: they aren’t. Pieces (or things) we mentioned: * The Weird and Wonderful World of Nicole He’s Technological Art [https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissabrinks/2018/10/29/the-weird-and-wonderful-world-of-nicole-hes-technological-art/] by Melissa Brinks * Soylent Dick [https://nicole.pizza/soylent-dick/] * ENHANCE.COMPUTER [https://enhance.computer/] (mistakenly called ZOOM ENHANCE) * How to Break D&D for Fun [https://sidequest.zone/2021/07/12/how-to-break-dnd-for-fun/] by Melissa Brinks * A Belated and Nostalgic PAX West 2024 Roundup [https://sidequest.zone/2024/12/09/a-belated-and-nostalgic-pax-west-2024-roundup/] by Melissa Brinks and Kael Lockwood Theme music is Beat Thee by Alexander Nakarada, used under Creative Commons 0. Website [https://sidequest.zone/] | Twitter [http://www.twitter.com/sidequestzone] | Facebook [http://www.facebook.com/sidequestzone] | Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/sidequest.zone] | Patreon [http://www.patreon.com/sidequestzone] EXCERPT: https://sidequest.zone/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Clip-5-Defending-the-White-Guy.mp3 [https://sidequest.zone/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Clip-5-Defending-the-White-Guy.mp3] Melissa Brinks: The shit that I have seen about Anders—and some of it was by my own doing, because I was researching this article I was writing—but my God, the things that people say about him. Zora Gilbert: And it’s so crazy that we’re on this podcast, and we’re defending the white guy. [LAUGHTER] Melissa: Yeah. Zora: But— Melissa: He’s my white guy. Zora: “He’s my white guy.” Well, Gale is my white guy. Melissa: You know what? I have a shocking amount of white guys. Am I okay? Zora: I’m not—I’m not. [LAUGHTER] The thing about Anders is that within—you know he’s, he’s the white guy, sure. Melissa: God, if you put Alistair and Anders in a blender, you do kind of get Gale, don’t you? Zora: Yeah… Melissa: Fuck! Maddi Butler: You’re not going to make me play Dragon Age just so I understand that reference. Melissa: Maddi. Maddi: It is just simply not going to happen. Melissa: Maddi, if you put Alistair and Anders in a blender, you get Gale. Maddi: I don’t want to put anyone in a blender. Zora: Alistair wants to go in that blender. Melissa: Yeah, so does Gale. Fuck, Anders does too, honestly. They hunger for the blender. Zora: The thing about—okay, sorry, I have to defend my defending the white guy briefly. And it’s, you know, it’s gonna get into games creating like a fantasy thing to be oppressed so that they don’t have to look at real-world oppression. But that is the thing about Anders, is that in this fantasy world, he is sort of like the model oppressed character. Melissa: Spoilers for my essay, but he’s also bisexual in a world where queerness is not as accepted as we would like to say it is. Zora: As shown by Dragon Age Origins. Melissa: Dorian Pavus. I’m making a snarky face right now. Zora: Yeah. Anders is the only character through which the game chooses to tell a story about oppression, on like a categorical scale. Fenris personally has experienced slavery, and that is very horrible in ways that are not even obvious by me saying that he has experienced slavery. This man has been through it. Merrill personally has experienced prejudice and alienation and essentially excommunication. Aveline personally has experienced tragedy. Anders has personally and sort of like on a community scale undergone and understood and chosen to take a stand against institutional oppression of a class, right? And he’s safe to do that with because he’s a white guy, and BioWare doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing. But that means that his story is engaging to me on that level, in a way that the other characters’ stories are not. And it also means that people on the internet have opportunities to show their ass about what they—what they sort of think on a narrative moral level outside of the very specific space of political issues that they have identified talking points around. Does that make sense? Melissa: Yeah. I mean, it makes sense to me, but I’ve played the game. Zora: I’m not saying if you don’t like Anders, you’re a bad person. Melissa: I am. No, I’m just kidding. I’m not. [LAUGHTER] Zora: But yeah, it’s… uh, it, eh—[LONG SIGH]
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