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40 | Together in Practice: Stepping from Therapist to CEO

28 min · 23 de jun de 2026
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In this special announcement episode, Cecilia Mannella and Steph Davis share the exciting story behind their upcoming virtual summit: Together in Practice. They dive into the distinct shift from being a stellar clinical therapist to embracing the seat of a business leader and CEO. If you are a private practice owner—or are simply "group curious"—this episode is your sneak peek behind the curtain of the conversations, community, and strategy waiting for you this fall. EPISODE BREAKDOWN * The Spark Story: How a 20-minute virtual coffee chat turned into a 90-minute alignment of minds, a previous podcast episode, and ultimately, a shared vision for a virtual summit. * The Missing Piece in Therapy: Why clinical training isn't enough to run a business, lead a team, or coach yourself through tough leadership moments. * Collaboration Over Competition: Building a panel of women who share foundational values but bring diverse expertise to the business side of practice. * Active vs. Passive Learning: Why this summit won't be another boring 8-hour virtual lecture, and how the custom workbook will hold you accountable to actual implementation. MEET YOUR SUMMIT SPEAKERS The summit features a powerhouse lineup of five speakers bringing different pillars of expertise: 1. Steph Davis & Laura Bull: (Shoreline Counselling [https://www.shorelinecounselling.ca/]) Sharing their deep expertise on culture building, partnership longevity, leadership authenticity, and making choices aligned with your values. 2. Lindsay Bonham: (Money Skills for Group Practice Owners [https://moneyskillsfortherapists.com/msgpo-guide-o/]) Tackling financial leadership, numbers literacy, and stepping out of emotional decision-making to build a stable, profitable business. 3. Elana Sures: (Open Spaces Counselling & Group Practice Performance [https://www.grouppracticeperformance.com/]) Focusing on clinical excellence, sustainability, and retention strategies to help reduce therapist burnout. 4. Cecilia Mannella [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/]: Diving deep into strategic visibility, long-term sustainability, thought leadership, succession planning, and visionary CEO thinking. SUMMIT DETAILS & STRUCTURE To prevent virtual fatigue, the summit is intentionally split across two half-day Saturday sessions: * Day 1: Saturday, October 17th | The Business Foundation – Transitioning from therapist to CEO, establishing values, financial literacy, and sustainability. * Day 2: Saturday, October 24th | Scaling & Team Leadership – Deep dives into culture, partnerships, long-term future forecasting, and scaling for group practices (or the group curious). TICKET TIERS AVAILABLE: * Day 1 Pass: For those starting out who want to master the foundational business concepts. * Full Summit Pass: Access to both days for the full structural and scaling experience. * The Inner Room (VIP) Pass: Strictly limited to 20 seats. Includes access to exclusive communities, a post-session roundtable with the speakers for direct Q&A, and dedicated coaching sessions. LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED * Save Your Seat & Read Speaker Bios: togetherinpractice.ca [https://www.togetherinpractice.ca/] * Steph's Podcast: A Not-So-Private Practice

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episode 40 | Together in Practice: Stepping from Therapist to CEO artwork

40 | Together in Practice: Stepping from Therapist to CEO

In this special announcement episode, Cecilia Mannella and Steph Davis share the exciting story behind their upcoming virtual summit: Together in Practice. They dive into the distinct shift from being a stellar clinical therapist to embracing the seat of a business leader and CEO. If you are a private practice owner—or are simply "group curious"—this episode is your sneak peek behind the curtain of the conversations, community, and strategy waiting for you this fall. EPISODE BREAKDOWN * The Spark Story: How a 20-minute virtual coffee chat turned into a 90-minute alignment of minds, a previous podcast episode, and ultimately, a shared vision for a virtual summit. * The Missing Piece in Therapy: Why clinical training isn't enough to run a business, lead a team, or coach yourself through tough leadership moments. * Collaboration Over Competition: Building a panel of women who share foundational values but bring diverse expertise to the business side of practice. * Active vs. Passive Learning: Why this summit won't be another boring 8-hour virtual lecture, and how the custom workbook will hold you accountable to actual implementation. MEET YOUR SUMMIT SPEAKERS The summit features a powerhouse lineup of five speakers bringing different pillars of expertise: 1. Steph Davis & Laura Bull: (Shoreline Counselling [https://www.shorelinecounselling.ca/]) Sharing their deep expertise on culture building, partnership longevity, leadership authenticity, and making choices aligned with your values. 2. Lindsay Bonham: (Money Skills for Group Practice Owners [https://moneyskillsfortherapists.com/msgpo-guide-o/]) Tackling financial leadership, numbers literacy, and stepping out of emotional decision-making to build a stable, profitable business. 3. Elana Sures: (Open Spaces Counselling & Group Practice Performance [https://www.grouppracticeperformance.com/]) Focusing on clinical excellence, sustainability, and retention strategies to help reduce therapist burnout. 4. Cecilia Mannella [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/]: Diving deep into strategic visibility, long-term sustainability, thought leadership, succession planning, and visionary CEO thinking. SUMMIT DETAILS & STRUCTURE To prevent virtual fatigue, the summit is intentionally split across two half-day Saturday sessions: * Day 1: Saturday, October 17th | The Business Foundation – Transitioning from therapist to CEO, establishing values, financial literacy, and sustainability. * Day 2: Saturday, October 24th | Scaling & Team Leadership – Deep dives into culture, partnerships, long-term future forecasting, and scaling for group practices (or the group curious). TICKET TIERS AVAILABLE: * Day 1 Pass: For those starting out who want to master the foundational business concepts. * Full Summit Pass: Access to both days for the full structural and scaling experience. * The Inner Room (VIP) Pass: Strictly limited to 20 seats. Includes access to exclusive communities, a post-session roundtable with the speakers for direct Q&A, and dedicated coaching sessions. LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED * Save Your Seat & Read Speaker Bios: togetherinpractice.ca [https://www.togetherinpractice.ca/] * Steph's Podcast: A Not-So-Private Practice

23 de jun de 202628 min
episode 39 | How Do You Make the Jump From Solo to Group Practice with Laura Boyko artwork

39 | How Do You Make the Jump From Solo to Group Practice with Laura Boyko

If you are a Canadian therapy practice owner who has spent years leading teams and still feels surprised by how different it is to lead your own group practice, this episode is for you. Cecilia sits down with Laura Boyko, MSW, RSW, [https://bewelltherapy.ca/registered-social-worker-laura-boyko-msw-rsw/] founder of BeWell Therapy [https://bewelltherapy.ca/] in Whitby, Ontario, to talk about the emotional reality of going from solo to group, why a decade of leadership experience doesn't fully prepare you for putting your own name on the door, and how to lead people well without letting every decision become an emotional one. This is the People pillar — and it is the piece most established practice owners assume they've already mastered. In This Episode: Why your leadership credentials and years running teams still won't fully prepare you for the emotional weight of a practice with your own name on the door. How to notice when a business decision is being driven by emotion, and what it takes to strip that out without becoming cold or detached. The "I should already know this" trap that hits hardest for owners with the most experience, and why private practice leadership is a genuinely different skill set. Why the post-pandemic drop in people showing up to in-person community events may run on a roughly seven-year cycle, and what that means for how you plan your practice between now and 2028. The leadership and finance gap many women in business carry, and why getting honest with your numbers and hiring for your blind spots matters more than doing it all yourself. Resources + Links Mentioned: * 🌐 Website: ceciliamannella.com [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/] * 💼 LinkedIn: Connect with Cecilia [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-mannella/] * Laura Boyko / BeWell Therapy — Instagram @bewell.therapy [https://www.instagram.com/bewell.therapy/], website bewelltherapy.ca [https://bewelltherapy.ca/] Ready to Stop Leading in Isolation? Join The Practice CEO Circle You've built something real. A full caseload, a respected reputation, a team that's growing. And if you're honest, you're carrying most of it alone, because there's no one at your level to think it through with. The Practice CEO Circle is the executive-level peer space for established Canadian therapy practice owners who are done figuring it out in isolation. A curated room of leaders operating at the CEO level, where the conversation already assumes competence and goes somewhere you haven't been. For those who are looking for something beyond another FB group. → Join The Practice CEO Circle [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/the-practice-ceo-circle]

16 de jun de 202652 min
episode 38 | Leading a Group Practice with Haley Moore: Why Therapists Who Built a Team Are Still Acting Like a Friend Instead of a Leader artwork

38 | Leading a Group Practice with Haley Moore: Why Therapists Who Built a Team Are Still Acting Like a Friend Instead of a Leader

If you are a Canadian therapy practice owner looking to grow a virtual group therapy practice and have noticed that you're leading more like a friend than a boss, this episode is for you. Cecilia sits down with Haley Moore, RSW, founder of the virtual group practice Therapy Uninterrupted, to unpack how she transitioned from a solo and lonely practice to a team of six in just two years, and the leadership identity shift that growth necessitated. This is the People pillar in action, and it's the piece most established practice owners quietly skip. In This Episode: Why Haley deliberately hired a student before an established therapist, and how lower stakes plus a clean slate let her build her processes around someone still learning. Why a team of six in two years isn't slow growth at all, when business benchmarks treat 40% year-over-year as accelerated and she's far exceeded it. How standing optional weekly meetings plus twice-yearly in-person gatherings solved the team-connection problem without making the owner coordinate everyone's calendar. Why no encounter is a chance encounter in a virtual practice, so team connection and clinician comparison have to be engineered on purpose. How running short, low-cost experiments like walk-and-talk therapy and one-off workshops opens new revenue streams without committing to a lease. Resources + Links Mentioned: * 🌐 Website: ceciliamannella.com [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/] * 💼 LinkedIn: Connect with Cecilia [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-mannella/] * 🌐 Haley Moore — Therapy Uninterrupted: therapyuninterrupted.ca [https://www.therapyuninterrupted.ca/] * 📸 Therapy Uninterrupted on Instagram: LINK [https://www.instagram.com/therapyuninterrupted/] Work With Cecilia — The Practice CEO Circle™ You've built something real. A full caseload, a respected reputation, a practice that runs — mostly — on your own steam. And if you're honest, you're carrying it alone. The payroll math, the profit questions, the leadership decisions you can't talk through with your own team. The Practice CEO Circle™ is the executive-level peer room for established Canadian therapy practice owners who are done being the most advanced person in every space they're in. A curated mastermind where the baseline assumption is competence — and where you finally get to think out loud with people who actually understand what it's like to lead a practice and stay a clinician. → Join The Practice CEO Circle [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/the-practice-ceo-circle]

9 de jun de 202658 min
episode 37 | From Free Consults to Paid Structure: What Increasing Revenue Without Raising Rates Actually Requires artwork

37 | From Free Consults to Paid Structure: What Increasing Revenue Without Raising Rates Actually Requires

If you are a Canadian therapy practice owner who keeps being told to "just raise your rates" but senses that isn't the real answer, this episode is for you. Cecilia breaks down how to increase revenue without raising rates by restructuring two things most established practice owners never question: free consults and the unpaid work happening outside the session hour. This is the Profit pillar in action, and it is the piece most practice owners skip entirely because they assume their pricing is the problem when their structure actually is. Whether you're a solo practitioner or a group practice owner, this episode is for you. In This Episode: Why your clients are never paying for the 50-minute hour, and what the session is actually a container for. The reason "just raise your rates" is the wrong fix when the real issue is how your services are structured. The real annual cost of free consults: how 10 consults a month at a $200 rate quietly drains roughly $11,000 a year. What happens to your bottom line when 60% of consult-seekers book a paid first appointment instead, and why strong website copy makes that conversion possible. How packaging assessments and between-session work as opt-in à la carte add-ons recovered $30K–$40K a year for one client, without raising rates across the board or working more hours. Resources + Links Mentioned: * 🌐 Website: ceciliamannella.com [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/] * 💼 LinkedIn: Connect with Cecilia [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-mannella/] * The Practice CEO Circle — Cohort 2 enrollment is open. Application-only, limited seats. Apply to join the room [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/the-practice-ceo-circle]

2 de jun de 202623 min
episode 36 | Scaling Your Therapy Practice: The Complexity that Happens artwork

36 | Scaling Your Therapy Practice: The Complexity that Happens

If you are a Canadian therapy practice owner who is mid-scale and feeling business thinking leak into every hour of your personal life, this episode names the real cost of scaling a therapy practice — and what it actually takes to get your business and your life back. Cecilia walks through what no one warned her about: how the more you scale, the wider your world gets, and the more complexity quietly costs you presence in the relationships you love. She names the specific commitment she made six to seven years ago that gave her back her personal life and sharpened her business strategy, and why the room you sit in matters more than another business book. This is Purpose — and it is the piece most established practice owners skip entirely. In This Episode: * When you start a practice, your world is narrow — client acquisition, positioning, being a good clinician — and as you scale, it gets wider, with hiring, firing, cash flow, insurance, team dynamics, tax structures, leases, and software stacks coming at you like a fire hose that keeps getting bigger. * The real cost of scaling isn’t financial — it is showing up late to family birthdays, missing your nephew’s soccer games because you couldn’t leave a problem alone long enough to be present, and sitting through dinners you have zero recollection of the next day. * Why protecting your personal time gives you your business back — when business thinking stops leaking into every hour, your brain learns to do business thinking when you are actually doing business, and your strategy gets sharper and quicker. * The clinical skills that make you a brilliant therapist — sitting with discomfort, exploring complexity, honouring the slow unfolding of insight — are the same skills that paralyze practice owners into three weeks deciding whether to raise rates and six months researching whether to incorporate. * Why the therapy world’s competitive edge around practice ownership makes peer support feel unsafe — and why being in a room with other women running businesses interrupts the navel-gazing pattern your own brain can’t interrupt alone. Reflective Questions From the Episode Cecilia asks listeners to sit with these. Pick the one that feels most uncomfortable and stay with that one first. 1. How much wider has your world gotten — and what complexities have shown up with that? 2. How are you currently managing those complexities? Do you feel overwhelmed by them? 3. Where is your business thinking leaking into your personal life — the late-night Googling, the email on the weekends, the conversations with your partner that never stop being about work? 4. What can you commit to yourself to bring that back — to create allocated space just for business strategy thinking, instead of letting it leak into the rest of your life? 5. Where in your life are you trying to figure something out at midnight — alone — that you could be working through in a room of women who actually understand you? 6. What would it mean for you to have that room available to you every single week? Resources + Links Mentioned Website: ceciliamannella.com [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/] LinkedIn: Connect with Cecilia [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-mannella/] The Practice CEO Circle — application-only mastermind for established group practice owners (second cohort starts July). Apply to The Practice CEO Circle™ You’ve built something real. A full caseload, a team, a practice that mostly runs on its own steam. And if you’re honest, your world has gotten wider faster than you can keep up with — and business thinking is leaking into the hours you wanted for your life. The Practice CEO Circle™ is where that stops. Inside the room, we interrupt the over-thinking, we strategize together instead of alone at midnight, and we build the allocated business time that gives you back both your business strategy and your personal presence. A room of women running practices and businesses, calling each other forward, and refusing to navel-gaze. The second cohort starts in July. The application takes about fifteen minutes. → Apply to The Practice CEO Circle [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/ceo-circle-apply] Learn more about The Practice CEO Circle [https://www.ceciliamannella.com/the-practice-ceo-circle] Subscribe + Share If this episode landed for you, share it with one therapist who needs it. You know who she is. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/purpose-and-profit-the-sustainable-therapy-practice-podcast/id1821250797] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6uUTRcFHMB8RqEFV2chQfU?si=3VWrG0m3TsiuZYDK-UXW2Q] Leave a review — it takes 90 seconds and helps more Canadian therapists find this work.

26 de may de 202622 min