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This episode explores the intersection of migration policies, colonial history, and human rights in the North African borderlands. Guests Dr. Ahlam Chemlali and Dr. Younous Arbaoui discuss how European Union (EU) externalization policies impact daily life in Tunisia and the broader Mediterranean. The conversation centers on the lived experiences of those affected, from migrants forced into dangerous routes to Tunisian fishermen confronted by death at sea. By examining the ripple effects of border intensification and persistent colonial tropes, the conversation highlights the need for state accountability and the protection of the fundamental right to life. 01:31 Introduction 02:44 The Significance of Studying the Mediterranean 08:18 Narrative Ethnography and Lived Experiences in Zarzis 11:14 Legal Frameworks and the Responsibility of North African States 14:44 The Visceral Reality of Death and Identification 25:21 Distinguishing Between Hard Law and Soft Law 29:32 Grassroots Efforts and the Struggle for Dignity 36:53 Confronting Colonial Tropes in Modern Discourse 45:54 Regional Agency and the Path to Accountability 53:32 Climate Change and Hidden Environmental Consequences Dr. Ahlam Chemlali researches migration and borders, with a particular focus on European externalization policies and their political, social and human consequences. Her work examines how Europe governs migration both within and beyond its territorial boundaries, including through partnerships with third countries, the outsourcing of asylum procedures, and external border control mechanisms. Her research is situated at the intersection of migration, smuggling, gender, violence, and border governance, and places particular emphasis on the lived experiences and everyday realities of people on the move. Chemlali’s work is grounded in extensive field research in North Africa, particularly in the Maghreb. She has strong regional expertise in the MENA region and the Mediterranean, with a focus on migration routes, state practices, and power dynamics shaping border regimes. Connect with Ahlam Chemlali 👉 https://dk.linkedin.com/in/ahlamchemlali Dr. Younous Arbaoui is an Assistant Professor of Migration Law at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, where he leads the Global Migration Law Hub and the Global Rights-Making Network. His academic research centers on global migration governance, with a specific focus on the legal frameworks connecting the European Union and North Africa. Beyond his academic role, Dr. Arbaoui is a dedicated practitioner and advocate in the region; he is the founder and chair of the Clinique Juridique Hijra in Morocco, which provides legal aid to asylum seekers, and serves as the editor-in-chief of Revue Hijra, an interdisciplinary journal dedicated to migration law and policy. Connect with Younous Arbaoui 👉 https://nl.linkedin.com/in/younous-arbaoui-607b3316 Hosted by Amine Bit 👉 https://instagram.com/amine.bit Amine Bit is a Columbia University graduate of Comparative Literature and Society, who served as the Events Editor of The Columbia Review and currently works with Souffles Monde. FOLLOW & RATE THE RADIO IFRIQIYA: » Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radio-ifriqiya-powered-by-afikra/id1858526703 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radio-ifriqiya-powered-by-afikra/id1858526703] » Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1VynJbFfAioUDyM6nmiqa3 [https://open.spotify.com/show/1VynJbFfAioUDyM6nmiqa3] » Anghami: https://play.anghami.com/podcast/1079305298 [https://play.anghami.com/podcast/1079305298] THIS SERIES IS PART OF THE AFIKRA PODCAST NETWORK Explore all episodes in this series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfYG40bwRKl6WCw08uLTDai3ePhVUQvvz [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfYG40bwRKl6WCw08uLTDai3ePhVUQvvz] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com [https://pcm.adswizz.com] for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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