#28: Mythmakers, Friendship, and the Holy Work of Making Things with John Hendrix | Ruck The Way
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Some conversations feel like they happen on the trail, even when everyone is sitting still. This one did.
We sat down with John Hendrix, New York Times awarded author and illustrator, professor at Washington University in St. Louis, and the creator of The Mythmakers, a graphic novel about the friendship between C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. What started as a talk about books became a conversation about friendship, fellowship, failure, and the strange grace of being made to create.
John reminds us that the Inklings did not know they were the Inklings. They were just friends writing stories for one another, and in doing so they reshaped literature almost by accident. He shows us why myth is not a lie but a truth beyond the facts, why every honest creative act has to pass through the pit of despair, and why the way we spend our days really is the way we spend our lives.
If something creative has gone dormant in you, this one might wake it back up. Chris said as much before we even stopped recording.
Let the walk do the work.
Timestamps
00:00 Meeting John. St. Louis roots, a day in Edinburgh, and the wider world of the Inklings
07:00 The Mythmakers and a friendship that came up in our episode on the F word, fellowship
08:30 Why everything John makes is art first, and the subject comes second
10:30 The superpower of the graphic novel, bending time and the "third thing" that belongs only to the reader
16:00 Writing a myth about the Inklings, and why the ending could not stop at their deaths
19:00 Friendship versus fellowship, a shared destination, and why male friendship gets harder as we age
23:30 What working with other people's stories teaches you about your own
28:30 Made to create. The calling that is not always your career
31:00 If everyone kept a sketchbook, the world would be a better place
34:00 Make more than you consume, and giving your work the best part of your day
37:00 Path-dependent creativity. You do not know the destination until you walk toward it
44:00 The Pit of Despair, and why this is a human phenomenon, not just an artist's one
48:00 A bad liturgy, and remembering that God does not need any of it. It is all a gift
51:00 Chris picks up his brushes again
53:30 Art is not art until it is shared. Make it, then send it to someone
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