Food Safety on Trial: Litigate, Regulate, or Innovate? (with Bill Marler)

False Confidence: When Food Testing Gets Sampling Wrong

This episode tackles one of the most misunderstood concepts in the food industry: microbiological testing. Just because a food test comes back negative doesn’t necessarily mean the food is safe, and overconfidence in testing can create dangerous blind spots. I’m joined by Marcel Zwietering, professor of food microbiology at Wageningen University and chairperson of the International Commission on Microbiological Specifications for Foods (ICMSF). In this episode we’ll discuss: * Why microbiological sampling plans matter * The limits of negative test results * How false confidence can lead to complacency * The importance of process validation over reliance on end-product testing * Why contamination is often sporadic and difficult to detect * The evolving role of AI and predictive analytics in food safety * How regulators and industry can think more strategically about testing Dr. Zwietering also shares practical insights from decades of research and global leadership in food microbiology, reminding us that food safety starts with strong process control, validation, and hygiene (not simply more testing). If you work in food safety, quality assurance, regulatory affairs, or microbiology, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. The Smarter Food Safety Podcast is sponsored by Ecolab, a trusted partner throughout my career. They’re dedicated to protecting what’s vital, by advancing food safety, ensuring clean and safe environments, and enhancing water quality around the world.

Front of Pack Food Labels: Nudge or Noise!

In this episode of Smarter Food Safety, we step beyond traditional food safety topics to explore one of the most urgent challenges facing the food system today: nutrition and its role in chronic disease. I’m  joined by Sophie Attwood, PhD, a behavioral science consultant specializing in health, sustainability, and food choice. Together, we’ll examine why poor diets have become a leading driver of conditions like obesity, heart disease, and diabetes and why influencing healthier eating habits is far more complex than it seems. Drawing on behavioral science, Sophie explains how people make food decisions, why common assumptions about behavior change often fall short, and what emerging policies aim to do differently. The conversation dives into whether these approaches are likely to succeed and what it will take to create meaningful change at scale. If you are interested in the intersection of food policy, human behavior, and public health, this is an episode you will not want to miss. The Smarter Food Safety Podcast is sponsored by Ecolab, a trusted partner throughout my career. They’re dedicated to protecting what’s vital, by advancing food safety, ensuring clean and safe environments, and enhancing water quality around the world.

Food Safety on Trial: Litigate, Regulate, or Innovate? (with Bill Marler)

In this episode, host Frank Yiannas sits down with Bill Marler, one of the most influential figures in food safety litigation. Drawing on more than 30 years of experience, including the Jack in the Box E. coli outbreak, Bill shares what he has learned from being at the center of major outbreaks. The conversation explores the roles of litigation, regulation, and innovation, and challenges common assumptions. Bill explains why litigation is a limited tool, and why science and public health surveillance have done more to move food safety forward. Tools like whole genome sequencing are making it easier to identify sources, understand root causes, and prevent future outbreaks. This episode also tackles a key tension. While fear of litigation can slow adoption of new tools, avoiding the truth is not the answer. Transparency and better data are essential for prevention. The takeaway is clear. Most outbreaks are not mysteries. They are failures of fundamentals. Strong food safety culture, sound risk analysis, and attention to detail remain the foundation for prevention. The Smarter Food Safety Podcast is sponsored by Ecolab, a trusted partner throughout my career. They’re dedicated to protecting what’s vital, by advancing food safety, ensuring clean and safe environments, and enhancing water quality around the world.

Food Safety Moonshot: Using AI to Strengthen Prevention (with Dr. Elliott Grant)

What if food safety risks could be predicted and prevented before they ever occur?   In this thought-provoking episode of the Smarter Food Safety Podcast, host Frank Yiannas sits down with AI pioneer Dr. Elliott Grant to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming the future of food safety.   From his early work in traceability to leading innovation at Alphabet’s moonshot factory, Dr. Grant shares a unique perspective on how AI is being applied today and where it is headed next. The conversation explores the different types of AI and what they mean for food safety, along with why high quality and shared data is essential for progress. They discuss real world applications such as predictive risk modeling and automated monitoring, and how these tools can shift food safety from reactive approaches to truly preventive systems.   The episode also tackles important challenges, including regulation, trust, and the need for greater data sharing across the industry. You’ll walk away with practical ideas on how to begin using AI today, regardless of company size or technical expertise.   This episode challenges conventional thinking and invites you to imagine a future where food safety is continuous, intelligent, and proactive. Whether you work in industry, government, or academia, this is a must listen conversation on the next era of smarter food safety.   The Smarter Food Safety Podcast is sponsored by Ecolab, a trusted partner throughout my career. They’re dedicated to protecting what’s vital, by advancing food safety, ensuring clean and safe environments, and enhancing water quality around the world.   Frank Yiannas is a globally recognized food safety leader and former FDA Deputy Commissioner for Food Policy and Response. Through Smarter FY Solutions, he helps organizations strengthen food safety culture, leadership, and strategy. Learn more at https://smarterfysolutions.com [https://smarterfysolutions.com]

Rethinking Food Safety: Bending the Curve of Foodborne Illness (with Martin Wiedmann)

Despite decades of effort, foodborne illness rates have remained largely unchanged. Why has progress stalled, and what will it take to truly bend the curve? In this episode of Smarter Food Safety, I sit down with Dr. Martin Wiedmann, professor at Cornell University and a leading expert in food microbiology and public health, to explore the systemic challenges facing food safety today. We’ll examine why traditional approaches have not delivered the expected reductions in illness, the limitations of relying solely on pathogen testing, and the need for more risk-based, data-driven strategies. The conversation also highlights the importance of food safety culture, stronger incentives, better measurement systems, and aligning industry, regulatory, and public health goals. Dr. Wiedmann shares a forward-looking perspective on how science, technology, and leadership can work together to drive meaningful, sustained improvement. If the goal is not just safer food, but fewer illnesses, this episode challenges conventional thinking and offers a path forward. The Smarter Food Safety Podcast is sponsored by Ecolab, a trusted partner throughout my career. They’re dedicated to protecting what’s vital, by advancing food safety, ensuring clean and safe environments, and enhancing water quality around the world.