Hope | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #198

Repairing the Altar | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #199

Join Rose Camara, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they explore Elijah’s confrontation with the prophets of Baal in 1 Kings 18 and the significance of repairing the altar of the Lord. Together, they discuss how false worship leaves us exhausted and empty, while God continues to invite us to come near. This conversation examines idolatry, spiritual dryness, unity, dependence on God, and the simplicity of returning to Jesus—the true meeting place between God and humanity. When the altar is restored, God brings healing, fire, refreshing, and renewed life.

Hope | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #198

Join Athena Low, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they talk about the biblical meaning of hope — not as wishful thinking, but as a steady confidence anchored in God’s promises. In this conversation, they explore the difference between worldly hope and biblical hope, how hope strengthens our faith, why hope is formed through endurance, and how God meets us even in seasons of despair. They also discuss the importance of community, the danger of isolation, and the assurance that God never gives up on our lives. This episode is an encouragement for anyone walking through difficulty, uncertainty, or disappointment. Our hope is not in perfect circumstances — our hope is in Christ, the anchor of our souls.

Galatians 1 | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #197

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Athena Low as they walk through Galatians 1 and unpack Paul’s passionate defense of the true gospel. In this episode, they discuss the danger of drifting back into fear, religious striving, and man-made systems after receiving the freedom of Christ. Galatians reminds us that Jesus did not simply improve the old way — He delivered us from the present evil age and brought us into new creation life. This conversation explores grace, the law, spiritual freedom, deception, fear-based religion, and the simplicity of keeping Christ at the center. The gospel is not about adding our effort to what Jesus started; it is about resting in what He has fully accomplished and learning to walk by the Spirit in love.

Gifts vs Fruit | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #196

Join Pastor Bob Wilk and Pastor Liz Jones for a powerful conversation on the fruit of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, and what true spiritual maturity looks like in the life of a believer. In this episode, they discuss the difference between gifts that are given by God and fruit that is grown through a yielded life with the Holy Spirit. While spiritual gifts are powerful and necessary for the Body of Christ, they were never meant to replace character, maturity, love, patience, kindness, and the evidence of God’s nature being formed in us. Together, they explore why the Church must learn to discern people by their fruit, not just by their gifting, and why gifts should always operate from a place of love, humility, integrity, and submission to the Holy Spirit.

Covenant Relationships | SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast #195

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss covenant relationships, marriage, divorce, remarriage, and God’s heart for reconciliation. In this episode, they approach a difficult and deeply personal topic with biblical clarity, pastoral wisdom, and compassion. Together, they unpack what covenant really means, why marriage is more than a contract, how God’s mercy meets people in broken relationships, and why the church must walk with people through pain, counsel, safety, accountability, and restoration.