Stably Unstable with Dr. Jeff Yoo
In this episode of the Stably Unstable Podcast, I sit down with Dale, a former heroin addict who survived addiction, rebuilt his life through recovery, and now works on the front lines of Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside helping people struggling with addiction, homelessness, and mental illness. We explore Dale’s personal journey into addiction, what opioid addiction actually feels like, the turning point that ultimately led him toward sobriety, and the most impactful interventions that helped him break free from addiction. We also have an honest conversation about the realities of the Downtown Eastside — one of the most heavily impacted neighborhoods in North America when it comes to addiction, overdose deaths, homelessness, and mental health challenges. Chapters: 00:48 - Dale’s Origin Story 06:03 - When addiction took over 09:25 - The appeal of opioids 12:02 - The cycle of addiction 15:35 - Dale’s experience with Fentanyl 16:55 - How Fentanyl feels different from Heroin 17:30 - Dale’s experience with overdose 19:11 - What’s it feel like to wake up in the hospital? 20:50 - Impact of harm reduction after overdose 24:14 - What is it like to go into withdrawal? 26:30 - Dale’s housing situation during addiction 27:43 - The bio-psycho-social model of addiction 29:37 - How addiction impacted relationships 34:17 - Dale’s path to recovery 37:05 - Detox centers and which resources were helpful vs not 39:00 - Advice for anyone going trying to break free from addiction 42:07 - 12 step programs 43:22 - Opioid Agonist Therapy (Suboxone / Methadone) 51:07 - Temptation to relapse 53:55 - Different substances for different issues 58:34 - Alcohol and cannabis as gateway substances Whether you agree or disagree with current approaches to addiction and harm reduction, I hope this interview encourages deeper understanding and empathy for people who are often overlooked or stigmatized. Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions surrounding addiction, overdose, homelessness, trauma, violence, and mental illness.
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