Ep. 206 - Owen Ó Súilleabháin: Ancient Songs for Modern Lives (Encore Episode)

Ep. 207 - Amy Hawk: What Would Judas Do? (Encore)

Show Notes: Amy Hawk — Author, Bible Teacher, and Truth-Teller What happens when faithfulness to Jesus begins to put you at odds with the religious community that shaped you? In this episode of Stories from Real Life, I sit down with Amy Hawk, an author, Bible teacher, and writer whose work explores the uncomfortable intersection of Christianity, politics, conscience, and spiritual courage. Amy spent roughly two decades serving in evangelical church life—teaching Bible classes, leading Bible studies, women’s ministry, prayer ministry, and adult discipleship—before a season of deep disillusionment forced her to reexamine what it means to follow Jesus when institutional religion becomes entangled with power. Amy is the author of The Judas Effect: How Evangelicals Betrayed Jesus for Power, a deeply personal and Scripture-centered reflection on the American evangelical church, political allegiance, and the cost of choosing power over the way of Christ. The book is described as part Bible study and part personal faith journey, written out of Amy’s own crisis of faith as she wrestled with what she saw happening inside parts of the church after 2016. She is also the author of Six Years in the Hanoi Hilton, the story of her father, U.S. Air Force pilot James Shively, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and spent six years as a prisoner of war. That earlier book explored courage, survival, suffering, and hope under extreme circumstances—themes that also echo through Amy’s more recent work. Our conversation moves beyond politics into something more personal and searching: What does Christian integrity require? How do people hold onto faith when the institutions around them disappoint them? And how can Scripture become not a weapon for winning arguments, but a guide back toward humility, compassion, truth, and courage? In This Episode Melvin and Amy discuss: How Amy’s years in evangelical ministry shaped her faith and her writing. Why she felt compelled to write The Judas Effect. The difference between loyalty to Jesus and loyalty to a political movement. What happens when speaking honestly costs you community. How Scripture helped Amy process disillusionment. The role of courage, repentance, humility, and compassion in the life of the church. How her father’s POW story influenced her understanding of endurance and moral clarity. Why some conversations are difficult precisely because they matter. Get full access to Melvin E. Edwards at storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe [https://storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Ep. 206 - Owen Ó Súilleabháin: Ancient Songs for Modern Lives (Encore Episode)

Irish singer, composer, storyteller, poet, teacher, and leadership guide Owen Ó Súilleabháin brings a rare blend of music, memory, spirituality, and cultural wisdom to the conversation. Raised in one of Ireland’s most respected artistic families, Owen inherited a deep relationship with song, story, poetry, and the ancient traditions of Ireland. His mother, Rev. Nóirín Ní Riain, Ph.D., is a renowned sacred singer, theologian, and spiritual director; his late father, Mícheál Ó Súilleabháin, was a celebrated composer, pianist, musicologist, and founder of the Irish World Academy of Music and Dance at the University of Limerick. Owen’s work lives at the intersection of art and human transformation. With a background in philosophy, Greek and Roman civilization, and Peace and Development Studies, he uses music, poetry, conversation, and Celtic spirituality to help people reconnect with creativity, presence, purpose, and the deeper currents of their own lives. Owen has collaborated with and worked alongside major artistic figures including The Chieftains, Sinéad O’Connor, Steven Spielberg, Russell Crowe, Nigel Kennedy, David Whyte, and John O’Donohue. His current work includes leadership coaching, cultural journeys through Ireland, and creative communities rooted in Celtic spirituality, seasonal ritual, song, and story. In this episode, Owen helps us explore what ancient songs can teach modern people about grief, belonging, listening, creativity, and the human longing to be fully alive. Get full access to Melvin E. Edwards at storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe [https://storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Ep. 205 - Nancy Deyo: Mountain High, Valley Low

Episode Summary Nancy Deyo is a former Silicon Valley CEO, Stanford Distinguished Careers Institute Fellow, and author of the forthcoming memoir Perilous Ascent. After a medical crisis on Mount Kilimanjaro, Nancy entered a fifteen-year journey through misdiagnosis, chronic pain, opioid dependence, and identity collapse. In this episode of Stories from Real Life, Nancy shares how the strategies that once defined her success—discipline, endurance, ambition, and pushing through—eventually had to be reexamined. Her story is not about a simple cure or a clean comeback. It is about learning to live differently when life no longer responds to effort in the same way. This conversation explores chronic pain, medical uncertainty, high-performance culture, shame, adaptation, and the deeper meaning of resilience. In This Episode, We Discuss * The medical crisis Nancy experienced on Mount Kilimanjaro * How chronic pain reshaped her identity and daily life * The long road through misdiagnosis and medical uncertainty * Opioid dependence in the context of chronic pain * The emotional cost of high-performance culture * Why “pushing through” can sometimes become harmful * Attending graduate school while unable to sit * Rebuilding a meaningful life without pretending everything is fixed * Her forthcoming memoir, Perilous Ascent * A more honest definition of resilience Memorable Themes One of the most powerful ideas in this conversation is that resilience does not always mean pushing harder. Sometimes resilience means recognizing limits, grieving the life that changed, and adapting with honesty rather than force. Nancy’s story will resonate with anyone living with chronic illness, navigating burnout, facing medical uncertainty, caregiving for someone in pain, or rebuilding after a major life disruption. About Nancy Deyo Nancy Deyo is a former Silicon Valley CEO and Stanford Distinguished Careers Institute Fellow. Her forthcoming memoir, Perilous Ascent, reflects on a fifteen-year journey through chronic pain, misdiagnosis, opioid dependence, and personal transformation after a medical crisis on Mount Kilimanjaro. Through her writing and speaking, Nancy offers a candid look at what it means to live inside pain, question old definitions of strength, and find a new way forward. Connect with Nancy Read Nancy’s Substack: Life Inside Pain with Nancy Deyo [https://nancydeyo.substack.com/] Media Well Done, LLC [http://mediawelldonellc.com] Get full access to Melvin E. Edwards at storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe [https://storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Ep. 204 - Dr. Craig Yorke: I Was Raised to be Perfect

Discover the compelling journey of Dr. Craig Yorke, a Black neurosurgeon, author of Steep, as he reflects on his experiences growing up in Boston, navigating racial identity, and the nuances of success in a demanding profession. This episode offers insights into overcoming societal pressures, the importance of memory and history, and the lessons learned from decades in medicine. In this episode, we discuss: * The distinction between resume virtues and obituary virtues, and how Dr. Yorke shifted his focus midlife * The rarity of Black neurosurgeons and his experience moving from Boston to Kansas * The influence of Dr. Yorke’s parents and their long-term impact on his life and career * The weight of surgical outcomes, grief, and the mental resilience required in neurosurgery * How cultural and social history are woven into his personal narrative and medical journey * The meaning behind the cover art of Steep, inspired by Ramon E. Cajal’s neuroanatomical drawings * The importance of understanding historical context for both Black and white readers * Lessons on humility, control, and compassion for physicians and parents alike * A heartfelt reflection on how his family celebrated his achievements, and the significance of his parents witnessing his success * Dr. Yorke's website [https://www.craigyorke.com/] * Media Well Done, LLC [http://mediawelldonellc.com] * Stories from Real Life [http://podcastreallife.com] Get full access to Melvin E. Edwards at storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe [https://storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Ep. 203 - Johnzelle Anderson: Rewriting Your Life’s Mixtape

Release Date: May 19, 2026 Episode: Number 203 Guest: Johnzelle Anderson, LPC, Author of Mixtape: A Memoir ## Episode Summary What if your memories weren’t just chapters in a book, but tracks on a mixtape? In this episode of Stories from Real Life, we sit down with Licensed Professional Counselor and author Johnzelle Anderson to discuss his powerful new memoir, Mixtape. Johnzelle opens up about the “soundtrack of survival”—from navigating the complex “in-between” of identity and race to the profound clinical work of helping others retrieve lost pieces of their own stories. Whether you’re interested in the mechanics of narrative therapy or the deeply personal journey of a man reclaiming his voice, this conversation offers a rhythmic look at what it means to heal. ## Key Discussion Points * The Mixtape Metaphor: Why music and “tracks” provide a better framework for trauma and memory than traditional chronological storytelling. * Sankofa & Retrieval: The West African concept of “reaching back to fetch what was lost” and how it applies to modern mental health. * Identity in the “In-Between”: Johnzelle’s experience being raised in whiteness while living in a Black body, and the realization of racism within “safe” spaces. * Clinical Insight: A look at EMDR and narrative therapy—how we can “re-record” the negative loops playing in our minds. * Lawful Atrocities: How systemic injustices manifest as personal psychological wounds. ## Resources Mentioned * Read: Mixtape: A Memoir [https://example.com] by Johnzelle Anderson (Released March 2026) * Connect: Panoramic Counseling [https://example.com] – Johnzelle’s clinical practice. ## About the Guest Johnzelle Anderson is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), therapist, and author dedicated to helping individuals navigate trauma through narrative and EMDR therapy. His work bridges the gap between clinical expertise and authentic storytelling, focusing on resilience, identity, and the power of reclaiming one’s narrative. ## Connect with Stories from Real Life * Website: Media Well Done [https://example.com] * Subscribe: Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your stories. Listener Challenge: What is one “track” from your past that you’re ready to re-record? Share your thoughts with us on social media using the hashtag #RealLifeMixtape. Get full access to Melvin E. Edwards at storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe [https://storiesfromreallife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]