E17 There Are No Returns On a Broken Planet - Why Capital Needs a New Story with Sana Kapadia

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In this episode of Storytelling for Social Impact, Ravinol Chambers sits down with Sana Kapadia, Chief Catalyst at Heading For Change and an investor working at the intersection of finance, gender and climate, for a conversation that goes far deeper than impact as a concept. They talk about what happens when you stop treating these issues as separate. Because gender, climate, inequality and finance - they’re not different conversations. They’re the same system, seen from different angles. And if we don’t start thinking that way, we’ll keep solving symptoms instead of causes. One of the most powerful parts of this conversation is around measurement. In impact, we often default to numbers, how many people reached, how much capital deployed. But Sana makes the case that without lived experience, those numbers can be misleading. Real impact isn’t just what we can count. It’s what actually changes in people’s lives. The conversation also goes somewhere more uncomfortable. What does this mean for us personally? It’s easy to talk about systems, capital, and change at a distance. It’s harder to ask: what is enough for me? What am I willing to change? Because until that question is faced honestly, progress will always be limited. There’s no shortage of solutions. Across the world, people are already building better models, more local, more inclusive, more connected. The challenge isn’t imagination. It’s whether we’re willing to shift how we think, measure and act before the cost of inaction becomes too high. This is a conversation about impact, yes. But more than that, it’s a conversation about responsibility and how the story needs to change to inspire us to take up that responsibility. 00:00 Welcome 02:02 Sana's Journey Into Impact 03:10 Intersectionality in Finance 05:28 Rethinking Luxury and Enough 08:08 SDGs Gender and Climate 11:08 Measuring Impact Better 16:12 Gender Climate Fund Examples 21:35 Unintended Consequences and Norms 23:52 Storytelling Campaigns That Work 27:46 Beyond the Bubble 28:22 Humour in Impact 30:17 Perfection and Burnout 31:37 Reporting Overload 34:49 Rethinking Risk Returns 38:18 Local Evidence and Nuance 41:13 Fixing the Plumbing 44:22 Cost of Inaction 45:56 Everyday Power to Act 48:43 Reconnect with Nature 53:55 Solutions and Storytelling 55:51 Final Reflections and Thanks * Heading for Change | Accelerating proven climate and biodiversity solutions with women as agents of change [https://www.headingforchange.org/] * Sana on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanarkapadia/] * Ravinol on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ravchambers/] * Purpose Driven Storytelling Agency & Video Production Company [https://www.beinspiredfilms.co.uk/]

E16 Doing Good by Doing What You Do Best with Zahid Torres-Rahman, OBE

In this episode of Storytelling for Social Impact, Ravinol Chambers speaks with Zahid Torres-Rahman OBE, co-founder of Business Fights Poverty, about a simple but powerful idea: the most effective way for organisations to contribute to social progress is often by doing what they already do best. Zahid has spent decades working at the intersection of business, development and social impact. Through Business Fights Poverty, he has helped connect thousands of leaders across companies, NGOs and institutions who are trying to tackle complex global problems together. What emerges from this conversation is a refreshing perspective on impact. Not a model driven by grand statements or corporate slogans. But one grounded in collaboration, humility and practical action. Ravinol and Zahid explore why the biggest barriers to solving social problems are rarely technical. More often, they are about relationships, trust and the ability to connect people across sectors who would not normally sit at the same table. They also discuss the role storytelling plays in this process. Stories help us see the human dimension behind abstract challenges. They help organisations communicate purpose in ways that feel real rather than performative. And they help leaders recognise where their work intersects with something larger than themselves. Some of the themes explored in this episode include: • Why business has a unique role to play in addressing social and environmental challenges • The idea that impact often comes from doing what you already do well, not trying to become something new • Why collaboration between businesses, NGOs and governments is essential, but often difficult • The importance of human relationships and trust in driving meaningful change • How storytelling can bring clarity, alignment and shared purpose to complex issues At its heart, this conversation is about a shift in mindset. Moving away from the idea that solving global problems belongs to one sector alone. And towards a recognition that real progress happens when people bring their different strengths together. As Zahid reflects in the episode, the goal is not perfection. It is progress, built through collaboration and grounded in the belief that each organisation can contribute something meaningful when it leans into what it does best. Whether you work in business, social impact, communications or leadership, this conversation offers thoughtful insights into how purpose, partnership and storytelling can come together to drive change. 00:00 Reconnecting After Covid 00:59 Human First Collaboration 03:40 Origin of Business Fights Poverty 05:00 From Finance to Impact 06:08 Do What You Do Best 08:16 B Corp and Mainstreaming Impact 12:49 Beyond Jargon to Kindness 14:13 Recapturing the Narrative 18:24 Stories With Agency 23:21 Comms That Cuts Through 31:56 Kindness and AI 34:10 Kindness Builds Trust 34:53 Self Acceptance And Growth 38:26 Come As Yourself 39:52 Choosing SDG 17 - Partnerships 42:50 Five Bridges To 2045 45:27 Peer Circles And Bridge Builders 50:22 Human-Centred Solutions 55:57 Trust Through Honest Storytelling 59:06 Campaigns That Cut Through 01:02:52 Unlearning Gender Norms 01:05:48 Where To Find Business Fights Poverty * Ravinol on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ravchambers/] * Purpose Driven Storytelling Agency & Video Production Company [https://www.beinspiredfilms.co.uk/] * Zahid on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/zahidtorresrahman/] * Collaborating for Social Impact - Business Fights Poverty [https://businessfightspoverty.org/]

9 de mar de 20261 h 6 min

E17 There Are No Returns On a Broken Planet - Why Capital Needs a New Story with Sana Kapadia

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