Victor Hovland Wins. Nelly Misses Her Three-Peat. Players React to the New PGA Tour.

Critics Say the Travelers Championship Is Trash. The Leaderboard Says Otherwise.

Critics Say the Travelers Championship Is Trash. The Leaderboard Says Otherwise. This episode is sponsored by Quince. Free shipping and 365-day returns at Quince.com/wingo Every year the Travelers Championship delivers something nobody sees coming. And every year a certain corner of golf media decides it is not a real tournament. This week Trey and Justin push back on that take — hard. The History of Wild Finishes Let's start with what TPC River Highlands has actually produced over the last fifteen years. Kevin Streelman with seven consecutive birdies in 2014 to win out of nowhere. Jordan Spieth holing out from the bunker on 18 in 2017 — a month before winning the Open Championship. Dustin Johnson winning one of the first events back after COVID. Harris English and Kramer Hickok going eight playoff holes. Sahith Theegala almost getting his first PGA Tour win before Xander Schauffele clipped him. Keegan Bradley setting a scoring record. The Scotty Scheffler and Tom Kim playoff. Keegan Bradley again last year, breaking Tommy Fleetwood's heart on the last hole. And now Victor Hovland winning his eighth career PGA Tour title in a playoff over Scotty Scheffler — both players hitting unbelievable approach shots on the first playoff hole, Hovland making birdie, Scotty's putt slipping out. In a week that also featured Norwegian World Cup fans creating a miniature Ryder Cup atmosphere in the stands that nobody saw coming. Scotty Scheffler shot a 60 in one round this week and did not win. That is the Travelers Championship. That is what this tournament does. The Leaderboard Argument The criticism of the Travelers tends to center on the golf course itself — the layout, the scoring, the birdie-fest nature of TPC River Highlands. Trey's counterargument is simple and direct. Look at the leaderboard from Sunday. Victor Hovland. Scotty Scheffler. Colin Morikawa. Matt Fitzpatrick. Wyndham Clark. Akshay Bhatia. Corey Conners. Alex Fitzpatrick. JJ Spaun. Robert MacIntyre. Ben Griffin. Name a tournament on the PGA Tour where you would not immediately sign up for that leaderboard. The score to par does not change who is on it. The architectural concerns do not change what those names mean to a golf fan watching on Sunday afternoon. For comparison — the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am regularly produces similar scoring ranges. Nobody is calling Pebble Beach trash. The criticism of the Travelers is about the course layout specifically, and that is a legitimate architectural opinion. What it is not is a reason to call the tournament bad. What the Travelers Actually Is Trey talked to players on-site this week — Lucas Glover, Chris Gotterup, Colin Morikawa, Xander Schauffele among others. Every single one of them said the same thing. The Travelers understands what it is. And more importantly it understands what it is not. It is not the US Open. It is not the Players Championship. It is not Arnie's event or Jack's event. It is the week after the US Open — a deliberate breather on the schedule where players can reset, families can come out, and the golf can be genuinely fun without being punishing. The Celtics do not play the Knicks every week in the NBA. The Chiefs and Bills do not meet every single Sunday in the NFL. Sometimes you get a breather. The question is whether you embrace it or fight against it. The Travelers embraced it. That is why it works. Chris Gotterup put it best — we are spoiled every week, but the Travelers goes one step further. Courtesy cars for caddies. Food on the range. The dining room stays open late so players and their families can eat after a long day. Small things that compound into a week that feels genuinely welcoming. That is what the Travelers does. That is why players keep coming back. The Scotty Scheffler Question Scotty forced a playoff with a par putt on 18 that had every Golf Live viewer convinced the drought was finally over. 13 straight events without a win. Two under his belt for the season heading into the Open Championship. And then Hovland made his birdie on the first playoff hole and Scotty's almost identical putt just slipped out. Justin's read on where Scotty actually is — do not panic. His putting numbers at the Travelers were exceptional and continue to improve, now 12th on the PGA Tour in strokes gained putting. His iron play ranked sixth in the field last week in strokes gained approach and third in greens in regulation. He leads the PGA Tour in strokes gained total and scoring average. He is gaining strokes in every facet of the game. The putts are not falling in the moments that count. They are going to start. Justin would not be surprised to see Scotty win both the Scottish Open and the Open Championship heading into the playoffs. The gap between him and Rory at number two in the world rankings is roughly the same as the gap between Rory and Bud Cauley at number three. He is not going anywhere. The drought is a math problem that is about to solve itself. The Alex Fitzpatrick ATM Update Since winning the Zurich Classic with his brother Matt in April outside New Orleans, Alex Fitzpatrick has been on one of the most remarkable money-making runs in recent PGA Tour history. T9 at the Cadillac for $500,000. Fourth at the Travelers for $960,000. T6 at the Memorial for $730,000. Top 25 at the US Open for another significant check. $623,000 at the Travelers this week. He is now inside the top 60 in the world and top 17 in the FedEx Cup standings. Justin notes he is drifting toward automatic qualifying at the majors. Trey's take — if he keeps this up, there is no way he is not on the Ryder Cup team at Adare Manor in 2027. The conversation that seemed premature two months ago is now entirely appropriate. Justin gives the overall rookie of the year edge narrowly to Chris Ratan given his PGA Tour win, but calls it a genuinely interesting race heading into the back half of the season. The Bottom Line The Travelers Championship is not a perfect golf course. Nobody is arguing that. But perfect golf courses do not guarantee great tournaments. Great tournaments are built on great fields, great finishes, and a genuine identity that players and fans both buy into. The Travelers has all three. And this week delivered another chapter in a fifteen-year run of memorable Sundays at TPC River Highlands. Trash? The leaderboard says otherwise. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Chris Gotterup on What Winning a Major Would Mean — and Why His Eyes Are Set on The Open

Chris Gotterup Was Given His First Chance at the John Deere. The New PGA Tour May Take That Away. This episode is sponsored by Quince. Free shipping and 365-day returns at Quince.com/wingo Chris Gotterup won at the Sony Open. He won at the Waste Management Open. He has five PGA Tour wins on his resume, he is building toward a Presidents Cup roster spot, and he has his eyes firmly set on a major championship at Royal Birkdale next month. He is one of the most interesting young players on the PGA Tour right now. And he sat down with Trey Wingo at the Travelers Championship this week to talk about all of it — including the new PGA Tour structure and exactly what the hard part is going to be for guys like him. His First Two US Opens — Oakmont and Shinnecock Gotterup made the cut at both of his first two US Open appearances. Oakmont last year. Shinnecock this year. He played a strong Friday round at both to stay in the tournament over the weekend. Not the result he wanted at either, but he takes something real from both weeks — when it mattered on Friday, he showed up. On which course he found more difficult — his answer is specific and revealing. Shinnecock hurts him more than Oakmont because Shinnecock does not reward distance the way Oakmont does. Distance is his biggest weapon — his version of Thor's hammer, as Trey puts it. Shinnecock takes it out of his hands in a way that Oakmont does not. He believes he would have a better chance of winning at Oakmont if he played it more. That is a level of self-awareness about his own game that most players his age do not have. What the Travelers Does Better Than Almost Anyone Gotterup is effusive about what the Travelers Championship does for players and their teams. Courtesy cars for caddies. Food on the range. The dining room stays open late. Small things that compound into a week that feels genuinely welcoming rather than just professionally managed. But the thing he comes back to most is what the Travelers did for him early in his career — they gave him a sponsor exemption when he came out of school. That is a debt he takes seriously. He comes back every year in part because of what this tournament did for him before he had any standing to ask for anything. He cites Patrick Cantley as another example of the same loyalty loop — the Travelers invested in him early and he has kept coming back ever since. Nathan Groob and Andy Bassett have built something real there and Gotterup is one of the players who notices it. The New PGA Tour and the Hard Part This is where the interview gets most honest. Trey asks Gotterup directly — the new PGA Tour structure says if you are on the Championship Series you cannot dip down and play Challenger Series events. The John Deere Classic kickstarted his career. If it lands on the Challenger tier in 2028 he will not be able to go back and play it. How does he feel about that? His answer is measured and genuine. He knows Andy and Nathan from the John Deere on a personal level — the same way he knows the Travelers staff. Those relationships are real. That would be the tough part. Not the competitive logic of it. Not the commercial argument. The personal side. The loyalty he feels toward the people and events that gave him a chance before he was someone who could demand a spot in any field. He accepts the commercial rationale — if John Deere wants to become a signature event and pony up the investment, the question goes away. And he understands that the tour cannot always accommodate every player's personal preferences when the economics of the new structure demand field protection for sponsors investing $20 million or more. But he is honest — at the end of the day you kinda just have to be selfish and do what you are told in some sense. Don't Think. Just Play. Trey asks about the mental side of the game — are players too focused on clubhead speed, spin rate, and swing mechanics at the expense of feel? Gotterup's answer is direct and clear — if he is thinking about his swing, he is toast. He has worked with the same coach for 15 years. He trusts his preparation during the Monday through Wednesday work window. On the course, it is all feel. He is trying to feel the shot, believe in the shot, understand the shot. Trackman numbers are useful for dialing in distances when he moves from one dramatically different environment to another — Waste Management to San Diego, for example. Beyond that, he is not interested in technical analysis when it is time to play. He also makes a point worth sitting with — the best weeks are not always when you feel great. Sometimes you grind out a top ten when nothing is clicking and that builds more momentum than a week when everything feels easy. The weeks where you feel calm and unbeatable do not last as long as you want them to. You chase that feeling by staying in contention long enough for the competitive instincts to kick in. Presidents Cup, Ryder Cup, and Team Event Goals Gotterup was in the Ryder Cup conversation at the end of last season after his strong overseas run. He is honest — two great weeks overseas against two years of consistency from other players does not automatically earn a spot. He was not sure he would have picked himself either. But he used it as motivation heading into this season and he is more comfortable now with the Presidents Cup conversation happening in real time. His simple answer on what team events mean to him — every player he talks to says the same thing. The team events are the best thing they have ever been a part of. You win one of those with your friends, with the guys you have grown up competing against, and it is unlike anything else in professional sports. That is the goal for this year. What a Major Would Mean Five wins. Two US Open cuts made. A career built one step at a time from the first sponsor exemption at the Travelers to two wins in the first three events of the 2026 season. What is the next step? Gotterup is clear-eyed about it. A major. Not because it would define his career or diminish what he has already done, but because it is the obvious next progression for a player who has been systematically checking boxes. He feels like he can travel and compete at most courses. He has gotten himself in the mix at majors. Royal Birkdale at the Open Championship is in about 20 days. He is not going to predict it or promise it. He is going to keep doing what he has been doing and see what happens. At 26 years old with two wins this season and genuine major championship aspirations — something very good is coming for Chris Gotterup. This conversation suggests he is more ready for it than most people realize. 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Victor Hovland Wins. Nelly Misses Her Three-Peat. Players React to the New PGA Tour.

Victor Hovland Wins. Nelly Misses Her Three-Peat. Players React to the New PGA Tour. Another week in golf delivered everything — a wild finish at the Travelers Championship, Nelly Korda falling just short of making LPGA history at the KPMG Women's PGA Championship, and players on-site at TPC River Highlands giving their honest takes on what the new PGA Tour structure actually means for them. Trey Wingo is at the Travelers. Justin Ray just finished a two-week road trip covering the US Open and the KPMG. Here is everything that happened. Victor Hovland Wins at the Travelers — Again, It Delivered The Travelers Championship has built a remarkable track record of memorable finishes over the last fifteen years. Kevin Streelman with seven consecutive birdies in 2014. Jordan Spieth holing out from the bunker in 2017. Harris English and Kramer Hickok in an eight-hole playoff. The Scotty Scheffler and Tom Kim playoff. Keegan Bradley breaking Tommy Fleetwood's heart last year. And now Victor Hovland making birdie on the first playoff hole while Scotty Scheffler's almost identical putt slipped out. Hovland wins his eighth career PGA Tour title in a week that also featured one of the most electric atmospheres in recent tournament memory — Norwegian World Cup fans bringing Ryder Cup-level energy to TPC River Highlands, singing in the stands, waving flags, and creating an environment that reminded everyone why live golf is unlike anything else in sports. Scotty Scheffler goes 13 straight events without a win. His underlying numbers are still extraordinary — he leads the PGA Tour in strokes gained total, scoring average, and birdie average, and his putting has moved up to 12th on tour, which is genuinely alarming for his competitors. Justin's read is simple — the putts are not falling at the moments that count, but they are going to start. He would not be surprised to see Scotty win both the Scottish Open and the Open Championship. His iron play is returning to form, ranking sixth in the field last week in strokes gained approach. The drought is not a crisis. It is a math problem that is about to solve itself. Alex Fitzpatrick continues to be the most remarkable money-making story of the season. Since winning the Zurich Classic with his brother Matt in April, Fitzpatrick has made the cut in every event, piled up multiple top tens, and earned his way into the top 17 on the FedEx Cup list playing in a fraction of the events most players have entered. Justin and Trey agree — Ryder Cup conversation is now entirely appropriate and Fitzpatrick is drifting toward automatic qualifying at the majors. The ATM is open and it does not appear to be closing anytime soon. The Fried Egg Podcast Takes on the Travelers Trey addresses a recent Fried Egg Podcast episode that was critical of the Travelers Championship — specifically the course layout, the scoring, and the overall quality of TPC River Highlands as a venue. He has a lot of respect for Andy and Brendan and what the Fried Egg has built in the golf media space, and he disagrees with them strongly. His argument — look at the leaderboard from Sunday. Victor Hovland, Scotty Scheffler, Colin Morikawa, Matt Fitzpatrick, Wyndham Clark, Akshay Bhatia, Corey Conners, Alex Fitzpatrick, JJ Spaun, Robert MacIntyre, Ben Griffin. That is a top ten you sign up for at any tournament on the planet regardless of the course. And for every birdie fest concern, he points directly at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am — same scoring range, same depth of field issues, nobody criticizing Pebble Beach. Justin adds the experiential layer — being there as a fan in his early career, the sight lines on the back nine are exceptional, the fan experience is one of the best on tour, and the players love it because the Travelers understand exactly what they are and what they are not. Every player Trey spoke to on-site last week said the same thing — this is fun for us, they treat us well, and we enjoy coming here. What Players Actually Think About the New PGA Tour Trey had access to multiple players on-site at the Travelers including Lucas Glover, Chris Gotterup, Colin Morikawa, and Xander Schauffele. The conversations all pointed in the same direction — genuine support for the broad vision, honest concerns about specific details, and trust that the flexibility Rolapp has promised will show up in the execution. The specific concern that kept coming up — if you are on the Championship Tour, you cannot dip down and play Challenger Series events. That means players like Scotty Scheffler, who has been loyal to events like the Byron Nelson and Colonial in Texas, cannot play at those events if they land on the Challenger tier. Chris Gotterup, whose career was launched at the John Deere Classic, raises the same concern — it stinks personally, but once it was explained commercially, it makes sense. The sponsors investing $20 million or more deserve field protection. Trey's take — rigid on the vision, flexible on the details, and the Jimmy Johnson rule applies. The more you can do for the tour, the more leeway you get. Rory McIlroy is not meeting his 15-event minimum this year. The PGA Tour is doing nothing about it. That is not a double standard — that is smart business. Justin's take — it is absolutely a double standard. And he totally agrees with it. Nelly Korda at the KPMG — Tied for Eighth Nelly Korda came to Hazeltine trying to become the fifth woman in LPGA history to win three majors in the same season. She finished tied for eighth. Justin points out immediately — tied for eighth is her worst stroke play result of 2026. That is where she is right now. That is not a disaster. That is a temporary blip for the most dominant player in women's golf. The winner was Hyeon Ju Yu — one of the best ball strikers on the LPGA Tour for several years who had held 54-hole leads at Chevron in both 2024 and 2025 without closing. She closed this time. A great story and a deserved win. Brooke Henderson was near the top of the leaderboard for much of the week — ten-year anniversary of winning a major as an 18-year-old, not yet 30, doing it again. Davy Weber, about to become a mother for the first time, essentially doubled her career earnings with a $750,000 check courtesy of the record $13 million KPMG purse. Charlie Hull missed the cut, which surprised Justin given how well she played at Riviera. Hannah Green and Minjee Lee also missed. Golf is a long season and bad weeks happen even to great players. On Nelly's path to a third major — Justin leans toward the AIG Women's Open at Royal Lytham over the Evian Championship. Evian generates unpredictable outcomes by nature, not always revealing the best player in the field. Lytham should suit Nelly better given her ball striking and course management. She had opportunities with her wedge game at Hazeltine — 14 times between 80 and 130 yards from the fairway over the weekend, she made two birdies. Small tweaks. No overhaul needed. Your Questions Seven questions from the Golf Live community this week — covering the Norwegian fan energy at the Travelers, whether no sponsors exemptions is fair to tournament partners, when Patrick Reed returns to the PGA Tour full-time, what is wrong with Bryson DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson missing the Open Championship for the first time since 2009, Eugenio Chacarra winning the Italian Open, and whether the PGA Tour is right to grant Rory McIlroy an exemption from the 15-event minimum. The Rory question gets the most direct answer of the week. Trey — it is not a double standard, it is just different when you have done what Rory has done. Justin — it is absolutely a double standard. I totally agree with it. Period. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lucas Glover Sits on the Player Advisory Council. Here Is His Honest Take on the New PGA Tour.

Lucas Glover Is on the Player Advisory Council That Shaped the New PGA Tour. Here Is What He Thinks. Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/WINGO #squarepod #sponsored Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINGO for an exclusive 20% off. Everyone has been reacting to Brian Rolapp's PGA Tour announcement. Lucas Glover has been helping shape it for months. As a member of the Player Advisory Council, Glover has been part of the process from the beginning, giving player feedback as the structure evolved. That makes his perspective different from almost anyone else's. The PAC and the Process Glover credits Rolapp for listening. Rather than arriving with all the answers, Rolapp leaned on players, media partners, and golf people to refine the plan. Glover says players genuinely had a hand in shaping the final product rather than simply being informed of it. No Sponsor Exemptions This was one of Glover's favorite parts of the announcement. He believes sponsor exemptions have little place in the new structure. The Championship Tour should be earned, not given away. If you are one of the best players in the world, you qualify. If not, you play your way in. Pine Valley, Seminole, and Cypress Point The possibility of championship events at iconic venues like Pine Valley, Seminole, and Cypress Point immediately caught Glover's attention. These are legendary courses golf fans rarely see on television. Bringing them back into the spotlight is a major part of Rolapp's vision. The Championship Tour Lockout Glover's biggest concern involves Championship Tour players being unable to drop down and play Challenger Tour events. That means players may no longer be able to support local tournaments they care deeply about if those events fall on the Challenger schedule. He understands the business reasoning but admits it will be difficult for some players and communities. The Regular Season Champion Glover strongly supports crowning a regular season champion before the playoffs begin. He points to players building huge leads during the year only to lose everything because of one poor playoff week. The best player over six months deserves recognition separate from the postseason. The Last Chance Series Glover calls the Last Chance Series a brilliant idea. Players fighting for their status creates immediate drama and clear stakes. He believes fans and broadcasters will quickly embrace it. LIV Players Returning Glover says there has always been a path back for LIV players willing to fulfill the requirements. He believes the PGA Tour should focus on putting the best product possible in front of fans, regardless of personal feelings. His favorite take? "Tyrrell Hatton should always have a live microphone." Fan Behavior at Shinnecock Glover believes fans can cheer and boo within reason, but once behavior becomes personal or affects play, the line has been crossed. His model is Augusta National: cross the line and your badge is gone. College Football and NIL Glover admits he is a huge supporter of Dabo Swinney and worries college athletics have become almost impossible to govern effectively. He supports players being compensated but believes NIL quickly evolved into something very different than originally intended. The AimPoint Debate Glover still does not use AimPoint and remains frustrated by how slowly it is often performed on television. His issue, he says, has always been pace of play rather than the method itself. What He Still Wants Despite two U.S. Open titles and a long career, Glover says he is not done. His goal is simple: earn his place on the Championship Tour at age 47 when the new system begins in 2028. He wants back in the Masters. He believes he can still win. And perhaps more than anything, he wants to prove he still belongs on golf's biggest stage. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Match Play Is Coming Back to the PGA Tour. Your Questions on What That Actually Means.

Match Play Is Coming Back to the PGA Tour. Your Questions on What That Actually Means. The fan questions this week are dominated by one thing — the Brian Rolapp press conference and everything that came out of it. Trey and Justin Ray answer seven of your best questions, and the energy in this segment matches the energy in that press conference room. Because when you mention match play returning to the PGA Tour and the possibility of Pine Valley, Cypress Point, and Seminole hosting championship events — golf fans have a lot to say. What Are You Most Excited About From the Rolapp Announcement Trey's answer is immediate and clear — the meritocracy. No sponsors exemptions. Mandatory cuts. Full fields. The entire structure of the new PGA Tour is built around one question: are you good enough? Can you play well enough to earn your spot? That is the thing that resonates most beyond all the structural details and format changes. Justin's answer is twofold. First — the Friday cut is back. The cut sweat is back. 120-man fields with a mandatory cut heading into the weekend is what professional golf should look like every single week. And then he read that the playoffs might go to Seminole and Pine Valley and everything else became secondary. Those two names on the same page as PGA Tour championship events is a different level of excitement entirely. Match Play Is Coming Back — What Does That Actually Mean This is the question the thumbnail is built around and for good reason. Match play is the purest form of golf. Head to head. One player against one player. Every hole matters. The format creates moments that stroke play cannot — a journeyman can beat the world number one if the putts fall at the right moment. That unpredictability is appointment viewing. Trey uses the Nick O'Hearn example — a left-handed Australian player who somehow beat Tiger Woods twice in the World Match Play Championship. Some things just happen in match play that cannot happen anywhere else. That is the beauty of it and that is exactly why the PGA Tour is bringing it back for the playoff format. Justin's caveat — as a television product, match play has its challenges. Fewer golfers means fewer shots to show. The broadcast has to work harder to keep viewers engaged when the story is two players rather than a full leaderboard. But the format is the purest expression of the game and both Trey and Justin are fully for it coming back at the highest level. Pine Valley. Cypress Point. Seminole. What Other Courses Could Be Next This is the question that generated the most excitement in the segment. Trey's immediate answer — Chicago Golf Club. One of the most underrated courses in the entire country, a place that does not get the same reverence as National or Shinnecock or Friars Head despite being every bit as historic and demanding. Trey has had the opportunity to play it and makes clear it deserves a PGA Tour event. Justin's answer — the Pacific Northwest. Chambers Bay, which has matured significantly since hosting the 2015 US Open, and Sahali, which hosted the Women's PGA Championship a few years ago. The Pacific Northwest is a beautiful part of the country with exceptional golf courses that the PGA Tour has not visited in years. Getting back out there would be a genuine gift for golf fans in that region. Both of them also mention Bandon Dunes — the US Amateur held there a few years ago was incredible theater, picture-perfect weather and a setting unlike anything else in American golf. Gamble Sands is another name that comes up. The Pacific Northwest has options and the PGA Tour would be smart to explore them. What Did Rolapp Say That You Are Still Waiting on an Answer For Five of the fifteen Championship Tour signature events have not yet been announced. The medical exemption structure is still being worked out — how does a player like Justin Thomas, coming back from back surgery, navigate the new system? The Korn Ferry Tour's future role has not been defined. The FedEx Cup sponsorship situation beyond next season is unresolved. And the specific cities and venues for the match play playoff rotation have not been confirmed beyond the hallowed-ground names dropped at the press conference. Rolapp's answer to all of this — 2027 is a runway year. More details at the Tour Championship. Drip drip drip of information, as Rory McIlroy described it earlier in the season. Trey notes this is entirely intentional — keep people interested, keep the conversation going, give them enough to be excited without giving everything away at once. Very much the NFL model that Rolapp rode to success before arriving at the PGA Tour. Gino Titicaka's Game Heading Into the KPMG Justin's assessment — one of the most intriguing athletes in professional sports right now. She compares to Xander Schauffele on the men's side — a player whose game fits perfectly for major championship conditions who has not yet broken through with the big win. She was the 36-hole leader at last year's KPMG and could not make a putt on the weekend. She has won twice this season. She is only 22 years old. The major breakthrough feels inevitable. Could be this week at Hazeltine. The Boorish Fan Behavior at Shinnecock Trey and Justin both address it directly and both land in the same place — it went too far. Eamon Lynch of the Golf Channel made the point that this specific behavior pattern tends to be a Long Island phenomenon rather than a New York phenomenon broadly. Beth Page Black at the Ryder Cup. Now Shinnecock. There is a pattern and it is not a good one. Justin adds an interesting theory — the access to trains meant more people could drink freely without worrying about driving, which may have contributed to things getting out of hand. But the core message is simple. You can root for whoever you want. You can dislike a player. You can cheer for your guy. But screaming at someone to miss and hoping out loud that shots go in bunkers — that is not golf fan behavior, that is something else. And the people who got kicked out deserved to get kicked out. The silver lining — Wyndham Clark handled it perfectly. Joking with his caddy every time one person clapped. Winning anyway. And in doing so he made more fans than he lost. Did the USGA Mismanage the Shinnecock Setup Both Trey and Justin push back on the mismanagement narrative. The USGA set up the course based on weather forecasts that predicted 45 to 50 mile per hour gusts Thursday afternoon. Those gusts never fully materialized. They protected the course accordingly, and when they realized over the weekend that the weather had changed, they tightened the screws — and by Saturday afternoon there were no greens at Shinnecock. There were browns. Justin's closing stat — how many players finished the US Open at Shinnecock under par? Three. That is the test. That is the US Open. You can debate the Thursday and Friday setup all you want, but when only three players finish under par at a major championship, the golf course won. And that is exactly what a US Open at Shinnecock is supposed to do. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.