Episode 49: "Season 5 Is Here — Trade Shows, Team Building & What's Coming" | Caleb & Kaleb

Episode 53: "Make Deposits Before You Ask for Withdrawals" | Serge Moskalets

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Serge — worship pastor of 20+ years, dad of four, and one of those leaders whose journey will sound familiar to anyone who's wrestled with the question, "Am I supposed to keep doing this?"Serge takes us through his story: immigrating from Russia at age five, growing up as the son of a choir director, becoming a worship pastor at 24 at Bayside Church, twelve years of building there, then selling the house and uprooting his family to San Diego for an executive role at Skyline Church during COVID — and most recently, the vulnerable return to Sacramento to help launch a smaller campus in the foothills of Auburn.Along the way, he unpacks what it actually looks like to lead healthy creative teams, how he discovered volunteers who hadn't taken a vacation in eight years (and what he did about it on day one), and why he believes his real job as a worship pastor isn't musical at all — it's being a "gatekeeper of purity" for the people his church is being asked to follow.They talk about: 🛡 The "gatekeeper of purity" calling that's bigger than music 🌴 Volunteers who hadn't taken vacation in 8 years — and what changed ⚙️ The 80/20 rule for ministry systems (systematize 80%, stay unique in 20%) 💸 "Make deposits before you ask withdrawals" — wisdom from Dennis Choi 🧹 Why vacuuming a drum kit can shift a whole team's culture 🗣 Spoon-feeding vision without throwing leadership under the bus 📆 Why worship pastors should say "we start worship on Monday" 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Not standing in the way between your kids and the church 🎯 Focusing on what only YOU can do — and letting go of everything else 💬 "What did you hear me say?" — the communication loop that changes marriages and teamsThis episode is for the worship pastor driving home thinking I want to quit, the executive leader who's lost the plot on margin, and anyone in ministry who needs a reminder that healthy rhythms don't shrink your team — they grow it.Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.Connect with Serge🌐 worshipos.co — take the 5-minute leadership assessment📱 Find him on Instagram & Facebook (Serge Moskalets)⛰ Currently at Bayside Church, Auburn campusExtras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Episode 52: "You're Not Alone in the Tech Booth" | Worship Sound Guy

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Jonny and Matt — better known as the duo behind Worship Sound Guy — for a conversation about what started as a Twitter meme account in a church auditorium and has somehow turned into a 10-year movement helping church sound guys around the world feel a whole lot less alone. Johnny (Tech Director at Stone Creek Church for 15 years) and Matt (Creative Director at Northland Church in Atlanta) share their stories of getting roped into church production "just twist this knob and don't touch anything else," the wild moment they realized at a Starbucks they were both about to launch the same thing, and what's surprised them most about a decade of teaching people how to mix — namely, that the technical questions were never really the point. They get honest about the loneliness of the lone ranger tech, how to build a volunteer culture people actually want to join, and the slow, painful, beautiful work of giving away the systems you built. Plus a sidechain compression trick that'll probably change your livestream mix forever. They talk about: 🎚 From meme account to Worship Sound Guy Central — 10 years in 🤝 Why so many church techs feel isolated (and what actually helps) 🎉 The "bringing drinks to the party" analogy that reframes Sunday morning 🙋 Inviting friends to serve vs. cold lobby asks 🎬 Letting someone else mix in your room without losing your mind 🎯 Defining the sandbox so volunteers can win 🥁 Why the snare drum might be the most important fader in worship 🎛 The sidechain comp trick for livestream room mics 🏆 Mix Comp Dallas — May 21st at The Hills Church This episode is for the lone-ranger tech who's been holding it together by themselves for too long, the production director learning to delegate, and anyone who's ever wondered if there's a whole community of people who actually get what you do on a Sunday morning. Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together. Connect with Worship Sound Guy🎧 @worshipsoundguy on Instagram & YouTube🌐 worshipsoundguy.com — courses, templates, presets, and the Central community👥 Team subscriptions now available Mix Comp Dallas📅 Thursday, May 21st at The Hills Church (North Richland Hills campus)🎟 Free — register at ampliosystems.com/events Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com [hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com]⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Episode 51: "Stop Making Content for Other Christians" | Jon Rush

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Jon Rush — former Elevation Church pastor, founder of Scroll Company, and one of the most thought-provoking voices on church, creativity, and culture — for a conversation that goes places we did not see coming.Jon walks us through his unlikely path into ministry (think: Methodist youth group makeouts, Toronto Outpouring revivals, and an Arcade Fire video that changed everything), his years on staff at Elevation, and what it looks like now to live in Franklin, TN serving a 200-person church that intentionally doesn't market itself. Along the way, he shares some sharp — and refreshingly honest — perspective on social media, church creativity, the LED screen debates, and why so much "successful" church content is actually just impressing other Christians.This one wrestles with what it actually means to reach your city, why production matters, and how to build something transcendent on Sunday in a culture that's overwhelmed every other day of the week.They talk about: 📱 Why social media might be hurting church creativity more than helping it 🏙 Reaching your city vs. impressing the algorithm 🎬 The "Arcade Fire video" that made the gospel land for a high school girl ✝️ A theology of LED screens, stained glass, and ancient-future worship 🕊 Why Sunday should create a "sanctuary for the soul" 🤝 Growing at the speed of relationship 🎙 Why the next Mr. Beast might be sitting in your church — and what to do about it 👂 The lost art of listening in church leadershipThis episode is for pastors, creatives, production leaders, and anyone wondering how to steward the tools we have without losing sight of the people right in front of us.Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.Connect with Jon🌐 jonwrush.com📱 @jonwrush on socials🏢 Scroll Company — social-first marketing agencyExtras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Episode 50: "The Theology of Production & Why It Matters" | Toby Walters

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Toby Walters — founder of Church Gear and now a published author — for a wide-ranging conversation about church production, why it actually matters, and the stories he gathered while writing his new book.Recorded live during FILO Week, Toby shares the wild story of growing up next door to a meth lab (yes, really), his unlikely path from worship artist to running a national church gear company, and what he learned visiting some of the most influential churches in America. From Red Rocks doing huge things with a piecemeal PA to The Austin Stone broadcasting six campuses through a single PTZ camera, Toby makes the case that gear isn't the problem — and it's rarely the solution either.They unpack what a biblical theology of production actually looks like (hint: it goes way back further than Willow Creek), why production is the new front door of the church, and how to build a career — and a community — that lasts.They talk about: 📖 The theology of production from the Tabernacle to Jericho 🚪 Why production is the "new front door" of the church 🎚 Doing more with less — lessons from Red Rocks & The Austin Stone 🤝 Building local networks with other church tech leaders 💸 Church production salaries, burnout, and career paths 🎤 Distraction-free environments vs. the attraction model 📚 Stories, surprises, and lessons from writing the bookThis episode is for anyone behind a console, in a booth, or running cable on a Sunday morning — and for the pastors and leaders who get to champion them.Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.Grab Toby's Book📕 Available at tobywalters.com, Amazon (print, Kindle, audio), and wherever books are sold🎧 Check out Toby's show: The Church Gear Podcast🛒 Buying or selling production gear? churchgear.comExtras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Episode 49: "Season 5 Is Here — Trade Shows, Team Building & What's Coming" | Caleb & Kaleb

Welcome back to The Sunday's Coming Podcast! After a few months off, Caleb and Kaleb are kicking off Season 5 with a casual catch-up episode all about what really happens when you take your team out of their normal Sunday rhythm.From trade show memories to mission trip vibes, the guys talk about how stepping outside the day-to-day can compress six months of relationship building into a single week — and why that matters so much for staff and volunteers. They share lessons learned from years of attending Philo, InfoComm, NAB, and more, plus practical tips on debriefing events, taking notes, and building a team culture of intentional reflection.They also break down all the upcoming events on the calendar — and trust us, there are a lot.In this episode: 🎟 Why trade shows are about people more than tech 📝 Building a habit of contemporaneous notes & post-event debriefs 🎚 The Dallas Mix Competition and how Adam Skidmore's idea grew into a national event 🎤 What to expect at Philo Conference + the Amplio Lounge after-party ⛳️ The Worship Classic golf tournament + Salt Conference in Dallas 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising tiny escape artists, United Wrapped, and other tangents.Whether you're a production leader, worship pastor, or volunteer, this one is full of encouragement to be intentional with your team — and a heads-up on where to find us in person this year.Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: hello@sundayscomingpodcast.com🎟 Check out upcoming events: ampliosystems.com/events⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!