Risk, Return and Responsibility
Risk, Return and Responsibility - Episode 10 What if doing the responsible thing with your pension wasn’t about values at all - but about returns, risk, and reality? Risk, Return and Responsibility, former UK Pensions Minister Guy Opperman and Chris Hall, Editor of Asset Owner Network, sit down with Alex Wright‑Gladstein, Founder and CEO of US fund provider Sphere, to unpack one of the most misunderstood forces in modern finance: why almost all US pensions still fund fossil fuels, and why this is a fiduciary failure, not a moral choice. Alex explains how a system designed decades ago now traps trillions of dollars into outdated assumptions, why climate‑friendly investing has been framed as “financially irresponsible”, and how lawsuits, not performance - quietly dictate where retirement money flows. This conversation goes far beyond ESG buzzwords. It’s about risk, power, incentives, and who really decides what “prudent investing” means. If you’ve ever been told you have to choose between returns and responsibility, this episode challenges that idea entirely. What You’ll Learn * Why most Americans want climate‑aligned investing - but think they’re alone * How pension fiduciary law in the US actively blocks innovation * The lawsuit culture shaping what can and can’t appear in retirement plans * Why fossil fuels have been one of the worst‑performing sectors for decades * How excluding fossil fuels can actually reduce long‑term risk * The uncomfortable truth about shareholder voting and conflicts of interest * Why the ESG backlash wasn’t grassroots - and who funded it * What a climate‑friendly index fund must do to survive regulatory scrutiny * Why “doing nothing” with pensions is still an active choice Stand‑Out Quotes “You don’t have to choose between doing good and doing well - that choice was manufactured.” “Most people don’t know what ESG means - but they know they’re worried about their future.” “The default option quietly decides the fate of trillions of dollars.” “Climate risk is financial risk. The law just hasn’t caught up yet.” Why This Episode Matters Pensions are the largest pool of long‑term capital in the world - and most people never realise where their money ends up. This episode exposes: * How systemic risk is ignored by design * Why default funds matter more than individual choice * How incentives shape markets far more than intentions It’s not a debate about politics or ideology. It’s a conversation about reality, responsibility, and the future we’re accidentally funding. Who This Episode Is For * Pension trustees & asset owners * Policy makers & regulators * Institutional investors * Anyone with a pension who’s never been asked what it supports
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