AI Will Split Humanity Into 3 Types – Which One Are You? with Zac Engler

Capitalism Might Be the Real AI Problem with Ben Byford

AI ethics didn't exist ten years ago. Now it might be the most important conversation a business leader can have. Ben Byford has been thinking about how technology reshapes society since 2015, back when Siri and Alexa were the unsettling new thing in your living room and "machine learning" hadn't yet become "AI." A decade on, the questions he started asking haven't aged — they've sharpened. The one he keeps returning to: are we building a system AI can actually live inside, or one it's about to break? Ben is an AI ethicist, founder of the long-running Machine Ethics podcast, and a games designer who has spent years inside the structural questions most operators don't have time for. He argues the technology isn't the problem. The economic operating system around it is. Capitalism rewards centralisation, AI accelerates centralisation, and the maths of that compounding ends in one of two places. Kenny and Ben get into both of them. The Elysium future — a small group with everything, the rest of society quietly hollowed out. And the Star Trek future — a post-scarcity society organised around flourishing rather than work. They unpack why a 10% unemployment shock would break most modern democracies, why "techno sovereignty" matters more than people realise, why local communities are the missing layer between grassroots agency and the global coordination problems AI is about to surface, and why the lack of a galvanising AI moonshot is itself a strategic failure. If you're a CEO, founder, or board leader trying to think past the next quarter's AI pilots and into what the world your business operates inside actually looks like in five years, this is the conversation worth your full attention. See Ben’s Machine Ethics podcast here: https://www.machine-ethics.net/ [https://www.machine-ethics.net/] Chapters: 00:00 — AI ethics didn't exist ten years ago. Ben built it anyway. 06:38 — Why every major tech shift has triggered a philosophical reckoning 10:12 — The structural bet: is capitalism the wrong OS for the AI era? 12:39 — The employment number that quietly breaks modern society 16:11 — "Flourishing" — what humans actually do when work disappears 21:40 — Open source AI as the only real check on centralised power 25:05 — Elysium or Star Trek: the two futures we're choosing between 27:35 — Why AI needs a moonshot — and no one is giving us one 33:28 — Techno sovereignty: when "global coordination" becomes centralisation by another name 42:18 — Community prosperity, the Machine Ethics podcast, and why Ben stays hopeful Find us on socials: 🔗 Follow Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/] 🤖 Follow Brim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/] 📩 For business or guest inquiries: hello@joinbrim.ai [hello@joinbrim.ai]

AI Will Split Humanity Into 3 Types – Which One Are You? with Zac Engler

AI isn’t just changing how we work — it’s starting to divide how people live, think, and operate. In this episode, Kenny sits down with Zac Engler, Chief AI Officer at C4 Technical Services, to explore a shift most leaders aren’t prepared for: AI is creating three types of people. Those who reject it, those who work alongside it, and those who fully integrate with it. They discuss what this divide means in practice — from rapid productivity gains and rising expectations at work, to a growing gap in individual capability. The conversation also explores the idea of a “Max-Q” moment for society, where pressure, speed, and change are all accelerating at once. As AI becomes more embedded in everyday life, the question isn’t just how you use it, but whether you choose to participate at all, or let the future be decided for you. Chapters 00:25 – Introduction to Zac Engler 01:25 – How Fortune 500s Are Actually Using AI (Crawl → Walk → Run) 03:09 – Even Experts Are Falling Behind 06:29 – “Max-Q” — The Pressure Point of This AI Moment 09:28 – Why You Need a Voice in AI’s Future 11:26 – The 4 Possible Futures of AI (Mad Max → Star Trek) 14:00 – Could AI Shift Us to a “Meaning Economy”? 16:33 – The Fragility of Society in an AI Era 20:00 – Can AI Rebalance Power in Society? 23:21 – Raising Kids in an AI World 27:00 – AI Will Split Humanity – Here’s How 30:10 – Participate or Get Left Behind Find us on socials: 🔗 Follow Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/] 🤖 Follow Brim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/] 📩 For business or guest inquiries: hello@joinbrim.ai [hello@joinbrim.ai]

We’re Raising Kids for a World That Doesn’t Exist Yet with David Martelli

AI is starting to change more than how we work – it’s changing how the next generation learns, thinks, and understands the world. In this episode, Kenny sits down with David Martelli (Founder of Guild Hall Learning) to explore what education looks like in a world where AI can personalise learning, create instantly, and reshape what skills actually matter. They discuss what this shift means for parents and leaders – from raising independent, self-directed learners to helping children take ownership of their development in a rapidly changing world. They unpack why memorisation is becoming less valuable, why systems thinking and adaptability are rising, and what it really takes to prepare children for a future that doesn’t yet exist. Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to Dave Martelli & Rethinking Education 02:00 – AI as a Personal Tutor for Every Child 04:45 – Why Kids Must Take Ownership of Learning 08:20 – From Specialists to Generalists Again 09:40 – AI, Abundance, and the Future of Work 16:40 – Systems Thinking: The Skill That Matters Most 22:10 – Teaching Kids Through Real Problems 29:20 – Why Traditional Schooling Falls Short 35:00 – What Humans Do in a World Where AI Does Everything Find us on socials: 🔗 Follow Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/] 🤖 Follow Brim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/] 📩 For business or guest inquiries: hello@joinbrim.ai [hello@joinbrim.ai]

Personalisation Without Surveillance: Can AI Understand You Without Tracking? With Ian Cook

Personalisation has become one of the most powerful promises of AI – but it has also come with a growing cost: surveillance. From social media feeds to targeted ads, many systems rely on tracking individuals across the internet to predict what they might want next. In this episode, Kenny sits down with Ian Cook, SVP of AI Technology at Qloo, a company building AI that maps culture and taste without tracking personal data. Instead of analysing individuals, their systems study the relationships between music, restaurants, brands, travel, and entertainment to understand how human preferences connect. They discuss how AI can uncover cultural patterns without relying on personal identifiers, why recommendation systems can quietly create echo chambers, and what businesses can learn from analysing taste instead of behaviour. The conversation also explores a growing concern for parents and leaders alike: how the next generation should learn to question and think critically about the information AI and algorithms present to them. As AI becomes more embedded in everyday life, the real question isn’t just what these systems can predict – but whether we can build technology that expands curiosity, encourages critical thinking, and understands people without turning them into data products. Chapters: 00:00 – Meet Ian Cook (SVP of AI at Qloo) 01:03 – What Qloo Actually Does: Teaching AI to Understand Culture 03:27 – How AI Maps Human Taste and Preferences 08:56 – Personalisation Without Surveillance 13:09 – The Algorithm Problem: Echo Chambers and Doom Scrolling 16:46 – Parenting in the Age of AI and Social Media 19:21 – Teaching the Next Generation to Question AI 22:25 – The AGI Hype: Why So Many People Are Fearful 28:26 – Why Ignoring AI Is the Worst Strategy 31:04 – “Action Kills Anxiety” — The Best Advice for the AI Era Find us on socials: 🔗 Follow Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/] 🤖 Follow Brim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/] 📩 For business or guest inquiries: hello@joinbrim.ai [hello@joinbrim.ai]

AI Is Moving Fast: The Decisions That Will Shape the Next Decade with Patrick Sullivan (A-LIGN)

AI adoption is moving faster than the rules designed to govern it. Companies are deploying powerful systems across finance, hiring, healthcare, and security, often before fully understanding the risks that come with them. In this episode, Kenny sits down with Patrick Sullivan, VP of Strategy and Innovation at A-LIGN working at the forefront of AI governance. Drawing on nearly three decades in IT security and risk, Patrick explains why the conversation around AI is shifting from excitement about capability to serious questions about responsibility. They discuss what regulations like the EU AI Act mean for businesses, why AI systems can develop unexpected behaviours, and how bias quietly appears in areas like hiring, credit scoring, and healthcare. As AI systems gain more autonomy, the real challenge isn’t just building them, it’s governing them. The decisions leaders make now about oversight, accountability, and risk will shape how AI evolves over the next decade. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Patrick Sullivan 01:40 – From Cybersecurity to AI Governance 03:06 – The EU AI Act and Why Regulation Is Rising 06:01 – Protecting Humans: Bias and Real-World 09:45 – Why People Over-Trust AI Systems 10:43 – Emergent Behaviour and the Alignment Problem 18:38 – Does Governance Slow Innovation? 22:48 – The Politics of AI Regulation 24:50 – AI Literacy and the Next Generation 31:20 – The Real Opportunity in AI Governance Find us on socials: 🔗 Follow Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyalegbe/] 🤖 Follow Brim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinbrim/] 📩 For business or guest inquiries: hello@joinbrim.ai [hello@joinbrim.ai]