Are You Measuring Success the Wrong Way? w/ Pastor Tim Timberlake | Both& Ep.13

The Hidden Danger of AI, Isolation, and Church Hopping w/ Michael El-Takrori | Both& Ep.17

What happens when a generation has unlimited access to information but struggles with transformation? In this episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Pastor Michael El-Takrori to discuss the challenges facing today's generation, from AI and technology to church hopping, spiritual covering, mentorship, and authentic community. They explore why information alone doesn't produce maturity, the dangers of isolation, the importance of being planted in a local church, and why spiritual fathers, mentors, and real relationships are more valuable than ever. If you've ever wondered how to navigate modern technology while staying rooted in biblical truth, this conversation is for you. About Pastor Michael El-Takrori: Michael El-Takrori has spent the last 15 years serving in full-time ministry, helping people grow in their faith and discover God's purpose for their lives. Alongside his wife, Gia, he served in youth ministry for many years before stepping into multiple leadership roles at ChurchLV, where he currently serves as an Executive Pastor, Young Adults Pastor, School of Ministry Director, and Location Pastor. ▶️ Listen now: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1PdWGqJ... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... 👇 Join the Kingdom First community here: https://kingdomfirst.bennyperez.com/ 📣 Watch more conversations, subscribe for new episodes twice a month!

Demons, Deliverance & Ministry To Gen Z w/ Benjamin Perez | Both& Ep.16

In this episode of the Both & Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with his oldest son, Benjamin Perez, 25 year old Youth Director at ChurchLV, where he has served for the past 2.5 years —for an honest conversation about spiritual warfare, deliverance, demonic oppression, and the authority believers have in Jesus. Pastor Benny shares real ministry encounters from over 40 years in ministry; including deliverance stories, demonic manifestations, supernatural experiences, and lessons learned from helping people find freedom through Jesus. Benjamin Perez also speaks into why Gen Z is increasingly drawn to spiritual practices without realizing the doors they may be opening. In this episode: • Real deliverance and exorcism stories • The difference between oppression and possession • Why fear is one of the enemy’s greatest weapons • Sleep paralysis and spiritual attacks • Zodiac signs, tarot cards, Ouija boards & open doors • Why believers need to know their authority in Christ • How the name of Jesus brings freedom “This is not a game. This is real.”

From Jewish Roots to Radical Faith w/ Rabbi Jason Sobel | Both& Ep.15

In this powerful episode of Both&, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Rabbi Jason to unpack identity, freedom, and the deeper meaning of what Jesus actually paid for on the cross. From a supernatural encounter in heaven to a life of discovering Jesus through the Hebrew Scriptures, Rabbi Jason shares how many people are living stuck, not because God hasn’t moved, but because they’re still thinking like they’re in “Egypt.” If you’ve ever felt stuck, limited, or defined by your past, this episode will challenge and free you. 📖 About Rabbi Jason: Rabbi Jason Sobel is a Messianic Jewish rabbi, author, and speaker known for revealing the deep connections between the Old and New Testaments. Raised in a Jewish home in New Jersey, his spiritual journey led him to faith in Jesus (Yeshua), shaping his life’s mission to help people understand the Bible through its Hebrew roots. He is the founder of Fusion Global and serves as a spiritual advisor to The Chosen. Rabbi Jason holds degrees in Jewish Studies and Intercultural Studies and received his rabbinic ordination in 2005. He is the author of several bestselling books, including Mysteries of the Messiah and The God of the Way, and his latest release, Transformed by the Messiah. Through teaching, media, and global tours, he equips believers to walk in a deeper understanding of Scripture and their identity in God.

Can You Be Gifted and Still Out of Alignment? w/ Pastor Jeff T. Osborne | Both& Ep.14

You can be gifted… and still completely out of alignment. In this powerful conversation, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Jeff T. Osborne break down a hard truth most people don’t want to hear: talent doesn’t equal readiness. Many people rush into purpose, platform, and opportunity—but skip the very thing that sustains it: process. You’ll also hear a powerful analogy about being a bullet and not the gun, and why timing, positioning, and alignment determine your impact. If you’ve been feeling stuck, overlooked, or confused about your next step, this message will challenge and realign your perspective! About Jeff T. Osborne: Jeff T. Osborne is a transformational leader, identity coach, author, and speaker whose life reflects resilience and redemption. Once facing prison, homelessness, and deep identity struggles, his journey became a powerful testimony of discovering purpose through transformation. Today, he helps individuals, CEOs, and leaders around the world break limitations, uncover their true identity, and step into alignment in both life and leadership. With over 15 years of experience, he has coached globally and spoken to diverse audiences, guiding people to grow from the inside out and live with clarity, confidence, and purpose. At his core, he is a husband, father, and leader committed to helping others live a life that is loud, large, and loved.

Are You Measuring Success the Wrong Way? w/ Pastor Tim Timberlake | Both& Ep.13

Culture is loud—but truth is eternal. In this powerful conversation, Tim Timberlake and Benny Perez dive deep into why this generation is rejecting fake Christianity and craving truth—even when it hurts. They unpack: - Why mislabeling Jesus limits your life - The difference between Jesus as Teacher vs Lord - Why truth must confront, not just comfort - The danger of chasing acceptance over God’s approval How culture is attacking the foundation of faith This isn’t just a conversation, it’s a wake-up call. About Pastor Tim TImberlake: Tim Timberlake serves as the Senior Pastor of Celebration Church. He’s a graduate of the Pistis School of Ministry in Detroit, Michigan. Pastor Tim is a gifted communicator and teacher who has the ability to communicate to people from all walks of life. His sense of humor, combined with his in-depth Bible teaching, gives the listener and reader the tools to transform their lives from the inside out. He takes pleasure in the small things, is an avid sports fan, and a popular thought leader. Pastor Tim lives in Jacksonville, FL with his wife Jen and son Maxwell. The Timberlake’s feel most alive when they are pouring back into others, and they seek to glorify God through their lives and family.