19. When heaven sounds boring

19. When heaven sounds boring

Oh, the heels of last week [https://open.substack.com/pub/thechristinaanddustyshow/p/18-bite-the-weenie?r=bjm5e&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true]’s mostly silly conversation, this week we got real deep, real fast! Dusty [https://dustyhegge.com] has a new sweater that made her question her political beliefs, and Christina [https://christinalynnwallace.com] shares about her connection to Scottish heritage. This segues into a wonderful conversation around biblical history, the importance of reverence in worship, and how apathy is the death of - well, most things - and how Dusty’s view of heaven has shifted. LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-christina-dusty-show/id1830262851] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/4Qt5jdrooK037zDtdZ7THR?si=e3a4314ff91c4a0f] → scroll for the chapter breakdown + links CHRISTINA’S LINKS: Website [https://christinalynnwallace.com/] | Substack [https://substack.com/@christinalynnwallace] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/christinalynnwallace] DUSTY’S LINKS: Website [https://dustyhegge.com/] | Instagram [https://instagram.com/dustyhegge] | Substack [https://dustyhegge.substack.com/] Subscribe for free to join us every week, chatting about theology, creativity, business, and whatever else we can’t stop talking about. WHAT WE DISCUSSED: * Dusty had a full political values crisis before buying an American flag sweater and bought it anyway. * Christina found a Scottish poet thirty minutes before recording and ended up grieving a cultural heritage she can’t quite claim. * Losing any real sense of cultural roots might be why so many American evangelicals can read the Bible their whole lives and still miss the point. * Dusty burst into tears during communion as a teenager while her peers snickered * The pendulum between white-knuckle legalism and “God loves me anyway” apathy keeps swinging, and the American church might be living out the consequences right now. * Dusty used to genuinely not want to go to heaven, and C.S. Lewis is largely why that changed. * There’s a yellow Tinkerbell dress Christina can’t wear to her Oxford summer ball, and what that opened up about existing in a body nobody sexualizes. More From Christina and Dusty: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com [https://thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

18. Bite the weenie

This week, Dusty [https://dustyhegge.com]’s frustrated about the Instagram update no one asked for, and Christina [https://christinalynnwallace.com] has thoughts about the final season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. But most of our conversation centers around pop culture, the need for digital boundaries, and a desire for more light-hearted conversations in the online space. WHAT WE DISCUSSED: * Dusty’s reaction to Instagram’s new disappearing content feature is a face that says everything you need to know. * Why the bot purge on Instagram might actually be the beginning of social media collapsing in on itself. * The question every parent is quietly wrestling with — when do you actually give your kid a phone, and what do you do in the meantime. * Why Substack being desktop-first might be its most underrated feature, and what that means for people trying to break a scrolling habit. * The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel ending has people divided — and it says a lot about how you see women and ambition. * Tolkien vs. George R.R. Martin as a proxy for two completely different beliefs about whether humans are capable of redemption. * Dusty got banned from watching Grease as a child for repeating something Rizzo said, and she has not recovered. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com [https://thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

17. New hair, old patterns

Christina [https://christinalynnwallace.com] has new hair (and a lot of feelings about it), and Dusty [https://dustyhegge.com] gets on her soapbox about trad wife culture, slow living, and what ambition is actually supposed to look like. They get into the pressures placed on men and women, why good friendship matters so much, and why we're all so grateful for long-form content these days. Dusty's got exciting book news, and Christina is still buried in her Oxford philosophy papers (because Philosophy is…a lot, and the surgery really didn't help). → scroll for the chapter breakdown + links LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-christina-dusty-show/id1830262851] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/4Qt5jdrooK037zDtdZ7THR?si=e3a4314ff91c4a0f] CHRISTINA’S LINKS: Website [https://christinalynnwallace.com/] | Substack [https://substack.com/@christinalynnwallace] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/christinalynnwallace] DUSTY’S LINKS: Website [https://dustyhegge.com/] | Instagram [https://instagram.com/dustyhegge] | Substack [https://dustyhegge.substack.com/] LINKS MENTIONED: No Dumb Questions Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-dumb-questions/id1204701206] Subscribe for free to join us every week, chatting about theology, creativity, business, and whatever else we can't stop talking about. WHAT WE DISCUSSED: * Christina realized her hair was a security blanket after chopping most of it off. * Why trad wife culture, slow living, and hustle culture might all be lies we keep falling for. * What “holy ambition” actually looks like when the world only rewards visible metrics. * Why downplaying the weight of fatherhood ends up hurting everyone, not just men. * The reason men can’t “chit chat” the way women do — and the edge women don’t realize they have. * Why long-form content might be the last sane corner of the internet (AI ads, we’re looking at you). More from Dusty and Christina: If you enjoyed this episode, would you please share it and let us know what stood out! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com [https://thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

16. The messy business of being a Christian online

We start where we always do — in the thick of real life — with a rogue robin, a bird loose in Christina's [https://christinalynnwallace.com] attic, and Dusty [https://dustyhegge.com] getting hacked at 2am. Things get a little heavier from there as Christina opens up about something that's had her genuinely grieved and glued to her phone, which spills into one of those conversations about discernment and digital noise that we could honestly talk about for hours. Dusty also has book news — the kind we've been hoping for — and we get into what the road to publishing actually looks like, why Christian writers can't afford to stay silent, and what we both wanted to be when we grew up. CHRISTINA’S LINKS: Website [https://christinalynnwallace.com/] | Substack [https://substack.com/@christinalynnwallace] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/christinalynnwallace] DUSTY’S LINKS: Website [https://dustyhegge.com/] | Instagram [https://instagram.com/dustyhegge] | Substack [https://dustyhegge.substack.com/] WHAT WE DISCUSSED: * We finally got to the bottom of why Filbert the Robin won’t stop attacking the windows. * Someone tried to steal from Dusty in the middle of the night — and she almost missed it. * Christina’s long-overdue essays are finally in, and we’re celebrating accordingly. (!!!) * When do you speak, and when do you stay silent? A question neither of us has a clean answer to. * Dusty has some very exciting book news she’s been waiting to share. * A moment from Christina’s feed that stopped us both cold and felt like a rallying cry for Christian writers. * What Christina’s Wind & Breath [https://christinalynnwallace.substack.com/p/may-wind-and-breath-creative-writing?utm_source=publication-search] workshops are, how they work, and how to join. * What we each wanted to be when we grew up. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com [https://thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

15. Coming up roses

LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-christina-dusty-show/id1830262851] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/4Qt5jdrooK037zDtdZ7THR?si=e3a4314ff91c4a0f] Dusty [https://dustyhegge.com] has a kamikaze robin trying to break in (Filbert, thank you very much), and Christina [https://christinalynnwallace.com] has a rose bush that’s carrying way more emotional weight than a plant should have to carry. Today, we talk about why feeding ourselves can be such a challenge, which dovetails into a lively conversation around self-care, soul care, and Dusty’s framework for not letting her days get away from her. The heart of it, though, is Christina naming that her perfectionism might be quietly feeding her depression, and how Oxford is gently dismantling an identity she didn’t realize she’d built. We end up somewhere I didn’t see coming — a charcoal fire, John 21, and the way God tends to redeem broken things rather than erase them. CHRISTINA’S LINKS: Website [https://christinalynnwallace.com/] | Substack [https://substack.com/@christinalynnwallace] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/christinalynnwallace] DUSTY’S LINKS: Website [https://dustyhegge.com/] | Instagram [https://instagram.com/dustyhegge] | Substack [https://dustyhegge.substack.com/] LINKS MENTIONED: * The book Christina is reading: The Anti-Inflammatory 30-Day Reset by Sophie Richards - Get it in the UK [https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/471349/the-anti-inflammatory-30-day-reset-by-richards-sophie/9780241770436] | Get it in the US [https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Inflammatory-30-day-Reset-Simple-Transform-ebook/dp/B0F8PDNCMW] * The book Dusty’s reading - Courageously Soft: [https://www.amazon.com/Courageously-Soft-Daring-Tender-Heart/dp/1540903435] https://www.amazon.com/Courageously-Soft-Daring-Tender-Heart/dp/1540903435Daring to Keep a Tender Heart in a Tough World [https://www.amazon.com/Courageously-Soft-Daring-Tender-Heart/dp/1540903435] | Amazon UK [https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Inflammatory-30-day-Reset-Simple-Transform-ebook/dp/B0F8PDNCMW] * Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund - Get it here [https://www.daneortlund.com/gentle-lowly] * 40 Plant Challenge by Brie Townsend [https://brietownenutrition.com/40-plant-challenge] * Root and Brand Nutrition on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/rootandbranchnutrition/] WE DISUCSS: * A plant is just a plant. It’s okay to release something whose symbolism has soured. * Caring for your body isn’t selfish. * Across most diets that “work,” the common denominator is cutting ultra-processed foods. * Perfectionism served you once — be kind to that version of you as you let it go. * The all-or-nothing trap is often what’s feeding the depression underneath. * At its root, perfectionism is a trust issue. * Break your day into quarters. A rough morning doesn’t have to scrap the whole day. * Slow living isn’t always a choice — sometimes it’s a surrender, and there’s intimacy with Christ in it. * God doesn’t always remove our brokenness, but He is always redeeming it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com [https://thechristinaanddustyshow.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]