The Empirical Energy Podcast
From Mars Missions to Manhattan’s Boilers: Natan Shahar’s Energy Odyssey Some of the most practical energy solutions don’t come from inside the industry—they come from rethinking the problem entirely. In this conversation, Natan Shahar shares how a challenge facing New York City buildings led him down an unexpected path—from energy audits and Local Law 97 compliance… to inspiration from Mars missions. As the founder of Standard Carbon, Natan is developing what he calls “electric natural gas”—a closed-loop system that captures CO₂, combines it with hydrogen, and produces synthetic methane that can be reused within existing gas infrastructure. Instead of forcing costly and disruptive electrification, this approach allows buildings and industrial operators to reduce emissions while continuing to use the systems they already have. The result? A fundamentally different path to decarbonization—one that works with reality, not against it. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 Silent Revolution Intro 00:45 Meet Mark and Natan 01:21 NYC Buildings and LL97 05:04 Mars Book to Methane 07:10 Cheap Power Hydrogen Idea 08:26 Building the Carbon Bridge 10:00 Pilots and Use Cases 11:00 Synthetic vs RNG 12:36 Avoiding LL97 Penalties 14:29 Approvals and Coalition 17:37 Where Projects Scale 22:59 Energy Security and Storage 25:37 Ideal Markets and Economics 31:08 Carbon Intensity Explained 33:45 Contact and Wrap Up 34:29 Podcast Outro Call to Action 🔍 About the Guest Natan Shahar is the founder of Standard Carbon. He began his career as a mechanical engineer in New York City, supporting the energy needs of over 2,000 buildings. When Local Law 97 introduced aggressive emissions caps and significant carbon penalties, many building owners were left with limited and often impractical options. Rather than forcing existing solutions, Natan took a first-principles approach to the problem. Inspired by concepts from space exploration—specifically methane production using CO₂—he developed a system that converts captured carbon into reusable synthetic fuel. Today, Standard Carbon is deploying pilot systems in the U.S. and internationally, working to scale a new category of clean, infrastructure-compatible energy solutions. 🔑 Topics Covered #EnergyTransition #Decarbonization #CarbonCapture #SyntheticFuel #Hydrogen #ClimateTech #EnergyInfrastructure #LNG #CarbonMarkets 📣 Call to Action If this conversation made you rethink how decarbonization actually works: 👍 Like this video 🔔 Subscribe for more real conversations in energy 💬 Comment your biggest takeaway 🔗 Share this with someone in energy, infrastructure, or climate tech
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