The Funny Times Podcast
What do gag cartoons, sugar gliders, kohlrabi, and the accidental death of Tennessee Williams all have in common? They are a few of the wild variety of conversation topics in today's episode. It's summer again — and this summer, revolution is in the air. That's because we're coming up on the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Two hundred and fifty years ago, America declared independence from kings. And today, with great pride and historical consistency, patriots celebrate by waving flags made in China, eating hot dogs on stolen land, and watching a UFC match on the lawn of the White House. Nothing says "freedom from tyranny" like a cage fight on the South Lawn. Still, saying "no" to kings was a good idea. Maybe we should try that again sometime... or at least say "no" to giving all of our fresh water to a chatbot so it can write us mediocre beach reads. ... This episode is tied to our July/August print issue- ideal beach reading if you don't mind getting sand on your newsprint. In it, Lenore Skenazy talks about founding father Benjamin Franklin, Dave Barry has advice for our graduates, and we have cartoons about siblings, a tribute to the late great Nicole Hollander and her Sylvia toons, and summertime. It's a great beach read that didn't need any AI! While those AI data centers slurp up our potable water, the rest of the world is heating up. California wildfires. Homemade fireworks. Political debates at the family cookout. But you know the perfect way to let off some steam? Laughing. That's why I love my job. It's why there's always a copy of Funny Times in my beach tote, both to read and to share the laughs with others — and it's why I'm especially excited about today's episode. Today, I chat with two people who have spent a lot of time thinking about what makes people laugh: Phil Witte and Rex Hesner. Phil is a longtime Funny Times contributor, cartoonist, and humor writer whose work has appeared everywhere from The Wall Street Journal to The New Yorker. Rex Hesner is a humor writer, jazz musician, and — alongside with Phil — a cartoon critic. Together, they're the authors of Funny Stuff: How Great Cartoonists Make Great Cartoons, a book about the strange machinery of single-panel cartoons: the gag, the drawing, the caption, the timing, the twist — and why single-panel cartoons are so magical, and so hard to pull off. They also share the story of how what started out as a fun hobby — hanging out as neighbors and critiquing every cartoon in every issue of The New Yorker — turned into a real job. Yes, they actually get paid to pick apart cartoons! I also share my own take on editing cartoons for Funny Times, and we compare notes on what makes a gag funny or surprising enough to make the cut. It's a delightful, wide-ranging conversation — followed by a surprise guest! Here's a hint: After a rant about marsupials, Ray says he's the right person to take to the zoo. (Pssst- it's Dave Maleckar!)
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