The Hard Copy Media Podcast
What does it actually take to scale a creative business past the referral wall? Skyler Mullins, co-founder of Influence Studios, Marketing & Rentals, sits down with Colton to break down the unsexy (but very sexy, depending on who you ask) business side of running a creative agency. Skyler shares how a SoundCloud rapper music video at 18 turned into producing thousands of TV spots for 17 different automotive manufacturers, how getting let go during COVID forced him to bet fully on the business he'd quietly been building since 2016, and how he eventually packed up his life in Washington and moved to Arizona to scale Influence with business partner Steffan. This episode goes deep on the operational realities most creative entrepreneurs avoid: how to qualify a discovery call in the first five minutes, why "the first person to speak dies" is the best sales lesson he ever got from an automotive Chief of Operations, how to deliver pricing without flinching, and why scaling on referrals alone eventually hits a wall. We also get into the harder stuff: the burnout, the missed milestones (including his daughter's first steps), the moment his seven-year-old told him he had enough toys, and why Skyler now treats the business as a marathon instead of a sprint. Topics covered: * Getting fired during COVID and going all-in on Influence * Producing thousands of commercials for Ford, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, and more * Producing a Nike commercial and Jordan product photography * Why the referral-only growth model eventually breaks * Building scalable SOPs and "thinking like a big company" * The five things to look for on a discovery call * Qualifying clients by revenue, decision-making authority, and existing content * Letting clients sell themselves (the PB Backdrops story) * The Microsoft logo and the perceived value of creative work * Why "the first person to speak dies" applies to pricing * Sustainable growth, sustainable scaling, and avoiding burnout * Recognizing wins instead of always chasing the next milestone * Skyler's book recommendation: Finish: Give Yourself the Gift of Done by Jon Acuff * Hot take: superhero movies are cash grabs 📧 Contact: hello@hardcopymedia.com [hello@hardcopymedia.com] 🔔 Subscribe for new episodes every week #CreativeEntrepreneur #AgencyOwner #VideoProduction #HardCopyMedia -- 00:00 Introduction & Meet Skyler Mullins of Influence 02:18 The Origin Story: Filming a SoundCloud Rapper at 18 04:15 Producing Spots for Ford, Mazda, Honda, Toyota & More 05:02 Getting Let Go During COVID & Going All-In on Influence 07:00 Meeting Steffan & The Move to Arizona 10:11 Why Referral-Only Growth Eventually Hits a Wall 13:44 Splitting Roles: Creative vs. Business in a Partnership 21:09 Scaling Sustainably: SOPs & Thinking Like a Big Company 23:25 The Discovery Call: Top 5 Things to Look For 28:00 The PB Backdrops Story: Let the Client Sell Themselves 30:19 The $50 Million Microsoft Logo & Perceived Value 32:18 The Best Sales Lesson: "The First Person to Speak Dies" 33:34 Don't Justify Your Pricing (Just Drop the Number) 41:18 What Skyler Would Tell His Pre-Influence Self 44:15 Scaling Fast Without Sustainable Systems 49:29 Burnout, Missed Moments & Working 30 Days Straight 55:23 LIGHTNING ROUND: Hot Take — Superhero Movies Are Trash 57:20 Book Rec: Finish by Jon Acuff & "Noble Obstacles" 01:01:21 Where to Connect & How to Follow Skyler
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