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Have you ever had an argument that had nothing to do with what it looked like on the surface? You fight about the dishes or a text, and suddenly you're no longer talking about what happened — you're talking about whether you matter, whether you're safe, whether you're understood. And somewhere in the middle, you stop trying to understand and start trying to win. In this episode of The Heart Leader Podcast, Amber Mikesell and Austin Uhl ask: how do healthy couples fight differently?The answer starts with a reframe that changes everything: conflict isn't the problem — disconnection is. Conflict doesn't create disconnection; disconnection creates conflict. Amber and Austin get vulnerable about their own histories with conflict avoidance (the "ostrich move"), and share the practical frameworks that transformed how they move through disagreement.They unpack the difference between healthy conflict and unhealthy looping, the rupture vs. repair lens for choosing how you show up, why heightened emotions create reactions instead of responses (and how to call a "pause" without staying stuck in "pause land"), and the OAR method — Own, Acknowledge, Reconnect — for repairing a rupture. Plus: why your relationship should never be a competition, how conflict avoidance hurts both partners, and the self-worth work underneath feeling "nitpicked" or "not enough."🎧 New episodes weekly. Subscribe and join a global community of Heart Leaders: @TheHeartLeaderPodcast [https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCywak7jxsgWJC4h3kEt7QQw] In this episode:✅ Why conflict isn't the problem — disconnection is✅ The difference between healthy conflict and unhealthy looping✅ Rupture vs. repair: choosing how you show up✅ Why "winning" an argument means losing the relationship✅ How conflict avoidance hurts both partners✅ The "pause" tool — and how not to get stuck in "pause land"✅ The OAR method: Own, Acknowledge, Reconnect✅ The self-worth work beneath feeling "not enough"#HeartLeader #HowCouplesFight #ConsciousRelationships #ConflictResolution #EmotionalIntelligence⸻🔔 Subscribe for more conversations on:Relationships, consciousness, emotional healing, self-awareness, communication, spirituality, mindfulness, nervous system regulation, personal growth, conscious leadership, and authentic living.⸻⏱️ CHAPTERS00:00 – Intro: The Fight That's Never About the Dishes00:47 – Why Conflict Feels Like Danger (And the "Ostrich Move")02:42 – Conflict Is Healthy: Reframing It as Growth03:49 – Healthy Conflict vs. Unhealthy Looping07:02 – Disconnection Creates Conflict — Not the Other Way Around09:31 – Conflict as Respect: It's Not a Competition12:10 – The Rupture vs. Repair Framework15:37 – Talking vs. Arguing vs. Fighting (and Active Listening)17:00 – Giving Grace & Space Without Getting Walked On21:12 – What Conflict Avoidance Does to the Other Partner26:13 – You're Not Powerless: How to Pause a Fight28:40 – The "Pause Land" Trap (How I Met Your Mother)29:40 – Working Through "The One Thing That Sets You Off"36:28 – The Self-Worth Work Beneath Feeling "Not Enough"39:54 – The OAR Method: Own, Acknowledge, Reconnect41:20 – Why the Only Way to Win Is the Relationship Itself42:18 – Next Episode: What Is Modern Love Becoming?⸻🔗CONNECT WITH AMBER & AUSTIN:Website: suivera.orgFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/suivera.org/Learn more about our award-winning project that is building a love-guided AI for human transformation: https://www.suivera.org/ai/
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