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When trust in science declines, society doesn't become freer. It becomes more fragile. In this episode of The Human Protocol, host Mykel Salomon sits down with Nicholas B. Dirks, President & CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences and former Chancellor of UC Berkeley, to examine why public confidence in science and expertise has eroded, and what it will take to rebuild it. From the long American history of skepticism toward science to the communication breakdowns of the COVID era, the rise of AI-fueled misinformation, and the real-world fallout of frozen research funding, Dirks makes the case that science is not a fixed set of truths but a deeply human process of discovery, one that earns trust through humility, transparency, and connection rather than dogma. In this episode, you'll learn: * Why distrust in science isn't a new phenomenon, and how it has resurfaced in roughly 20 to 30 year cycles throughout American history, from the Scopes trial to today. * What the "follow the science" messaging of early COVID got wrong, and why communicating the process of discovery builds more trust than declaring fixed facts. * How AI is accelerating both scientific breakthroughs and the spread of misinformation, and why that makes the question "who do you trust?" harder than ever. * The real stakes behind the roughly 5,300 NIH and NSF grants frozen or canceled in 2025, and the risk of discouraging an entire generation of young scientists. * Why so much of modern life, from the iPhone to vaccines to synthetic insulin, traces back to federally funded basic research, and what's lost when that pipeline is cut. * How the idea of "retail science" can rebuild public trust the same way "retail politics" wins elections, by meeting people where they are and telling a human story. * Why science doesn't recognize borders, and how international collaboration and open science make discovery stronger for everyone. Connect with Nicholas B. Dirks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-dirks-84a1ab149/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-dirks-84a1ab149/] Website: https://www.nyas.org/ [https://www.nyas.org/] Connect with Mykel Salomon LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mykelsalomon/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mykelsalomon/] Website: https://thehumanprotocolgroup.com/ [https://thehumanprotocolgroup.com/]
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