The Long Game | Voices from the health front
In this episode, Shlomi Madar of SpotitEarly talks with Professor Yossi Yovel, head of the neuroecology lab at Tel Aviv University, about bat echolocation and what decades of research reveal about animal communication, memory, and cognition. They also explore how AI is helping scientists decode non-human behavior, and why evolution favors trade-offs rather than optimal design. Resources & Links: SpotitEarly [https://spotitearly.com/] SpotitEarly investment opportunity [https://invest.spotitearly.com/] The Genius Bat by Yossi Yovel [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BR5ZN34K] Yossi Yovel’s Bat Lab [https://yovelab.tau.ac.il/] Color Doolittle Prize [https://color.doolittleprize.org/] Book: The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC1IWP] Animal Cognition and Memory Research [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/] Contact Prof. Yossi Yovel Twitter [https://twitter.com/yossiyovel] LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yossi-yovel] Timestamp 00:00 - Introduction to the episode and guest, Professor Yossi Yovel 00:31 - Yossi’s interdisciplinary background and how he started studying bats 01:17 - The significance of echolocation and animal sensing abilities 01:41 - Insights from the database of 300,000 bat vocalizations 02:36 - Current capabilities and challenges in understanding animal communication with AI 03:58 - Differences between human language and animal signals 05:23 - The potential and limits of AI in interpreting animal emotions and moods 05:54 - The “Color Doolittle” prize for decoding animal communication 06:47 - Advances in animal sound databases and AI’s role 07:08 - The feasibility of conversing with animals in the near future 08:29 - Rethinking animal cognition based on recent findings about memory and planning 08:59 - The continuum of consciousness and cognition in animals 09:52 - Challenges in testing cognitive abilities in natural habitats 10:21 - Episodic memory and planning in bats, analogue to human cognition 11:45 - Tracking bats’ foraging behavior with GPS and their memory of fruit trees 12:42 - The diversity of bat species, their global distribution, and conservation status 16:24 - Building autonomous robots that navigate via echolocation 19:42 - Current state and future potential of sonar-based autonomous robots 21:20 - Comparing sonar with other sensors like vision and LiDAR 22:18 - What gives Yossi hope: passing science to the public and future innovations 22:58 - Common misconceptions about evolution and trade-offs in biology 24:41 - Influential books and ideas, including Richard Dawkins and animal behavior 26:09 - The future of biology and AI: bioengineering and models that mimic animal navigation 27:49 - How to follow Yossi’s work and resources, including “The Genius Bat”
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