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Modernization isn’t just a technology problem—it’s a funding model, risk model, and governance problem. In this episode of Optimize, Chris Hamm talks with Vaughn Noga, former EPA Chief Information Officer, about what it takes to modernize in government when every change creates operational churn and oversight pressure. Vaughn explains why Working Capital Funds can enable continuous modernization (instead of one-and-done “projects”), how boards and transparency can create accountability, and why some modernization funding approaches don’t scale when the same infrastructure needs refresh every few years. They also tackle the tension between innovation and compliance including the rising bar of FedRAMP and what vendors should do differently when trying to break in: build credibility with the people closest to the tech and risk, not just the top of the org chart. USEFUL TIMESTAMPS (MM:SS) 03:02–03:32 — Leadership reality: too many “rocks” to pick up at once 08:17–12:11 — Working Capital Funds: continuous modernization + governance model 14:27–15:18 — Vendor engagement: “work from the bottom” to earn trust 18:31–19:12 — FedRAMP as a high bar for commercial innovators 21:47–22:28 — Why TMF loans for recurring infrastructure refresh don’t make sense 43:32–44:12 — “We tried that, it didn’t work” mindset—and why it stalls progress TOPICS DISCUSSED Working Capital Funds and continuous modernization Modernization risk: operational churn, oversight, and adoption realities FedRAMP/compliance barriers and innovation tradeoffs TMF vs repeatable funding for infrastructure refresh Shared services and consolidation: what’s realistic vs wishful thinking How industry should engage CIO orgs (credibility, bottom-up buy-in) LINKS Podcast page: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ [https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Host LinkedIn (Chris Hamm): https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/] Guest LinkedIn (Vaughn Noga): https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaughn-noga-984360299/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaughn-noga-984360299/]
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