Why This AI Company Is Growing Enablement w/ Melina Giakas from Clay

Why This AI Company Is Growing Enablement w/ Melina Giakas from Clay

TLDR: While enablement teams everywhere are shrinking and the whole market is racing to automate, Clay is doing the opposite. Melina Giakas explains why her AI-forward enablement team makes reps earn the shortcut before any automation gets switched on. Enablement is supposed to be the first thing AI replaces. So why is one of the most AI-forward companies in go-to-market growing its enablement team and deliberately pumping the brakes on automation? In this episode, Kelly Lewis and Tiffany Jones sit down with Melina Giakas, who leads GTM enablement at Clay, for a conversation that challenges almost everything you're hearing about AI in revenue right now. Melina shares how her team uses AI to compound competence instead of skipping it, why she makes go-to-market engineers prove a skill by hand for a quarter before automating it, and how Notion agents quietly handle content governance in the background. It's a practical, contrarian look at where AI actually belongs in modern sales enablement, RevOps, and the broader GTM motion. In this episode: * Why Clay is growing enablement headcount while the market cuts it * The "prove it before you automate it" rule for go-to-market engineers * Why AI roleplay keeps failing (and it isn't the technology) * Moving beyond the LMS to measure behavior change, not course completions * Using Notion agents for content governance with a human in the loop Connect & Subscribe Follow The Revenue Insiders wherever you listen and leave us a rating, it helps more GTM professionals find the show. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvLApple [https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvLApple] Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445YouTube [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445YouTube]: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88CgMore [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88CgMore]: https://www.therevenueinsiders.com [https://www.therevenueinsiders.com] Connect with Melina Giakas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgiakas/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgiakas/] | https://www.clay.com [https://www.clay.com]

The AI SDR Lie Every GTM Leader Needs to Hear

TLDR: Founder-led sales got you to seven figures. It won't get you to eight. Gearoid Cox, founder of SalesPipeline, joins us to unpack why most founders can't let go of sales, why AI SDRs are more brand damage than productivity gain, and what it actually takes to architect a sales motion that scales without the founder in every seat. Full Description:Every founder hits the same wall. The product is selling. The first ten clients came in on founder charisma and deep product knowledge. Then the business needs to scale, and suddenly the founder is the bottleneck nobody wants to name. Gearoid Cox built SalesPipeline to solve this exact problem. His firm hires, trains, and runs sales and marketing teams on behalf of small companies that have outgrown founder-led sales but aren't yet ready for a full in-house GTM org. In this episode, Tiffany Jones sits down with Gearoid for a candid conversation about the gap between founder selling and scalable selling, what gets lost when founders pitch features instead of mapping buyer journeys, and why the new-logo obsession is robbing most revenue orgs of the easiest growth available to them. They get into the AI conversation honestly: where AI is genuinely changing the game inside sales orgs (reporting, dashboards, enrichment), and where the AI SDR pitch is over-promising and damaging buyer trust at scale. If you're a founder, a fractional GTM operator, a head of revenue, or a RevOps leader trying to make sense of the moment, this one has receipts. In this episode: * Why founders cling to sales and what to do about it * The difference between a sales process and a founder in their head * Buyer journey thinking versus features-and-benefits selling * Why AI SDRs are great products pointed at the wrong use case * Where the real revenue lives (hint: it's not new logos) * What "graduating" from outsourced sales actually looks like Connect & SubscribeFollow The Revenue Insiders wherever you listen and leave us a rating — it helps more GTM professionals find the show. Guest LinksConnect with Gearoid Cox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gearoidcox/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycox]| https://sales-pipeline.io [https://sales-pipeline.io]

The Go-to-Market Levers Your Sales Managers Don't Know They Have w/ Sarah Bedwell

TLDR: Everyone tells sales managers to "be the CEO of your business," but nobody actually explains what that means. Sarah Bedwell does, and the gap between what most frontline leaders are doing and what's possible is staggering. Sales managers have some of the hardest jobs in any go-to-market organization. They're managing seven to ten reps, sitting in on deals, running forecast calls, and still trying to figure out where their number is going to come from. But here's the problem: most of them have never been walked through the actual strategic planning process that turns a territory into a business they can run with confidence. In this episode of The Revenue Insiders, hosts Kelly Lewis and Tiffany Jones sit down with Sarah Bedwell, a seasoned revenue leader and sales enablement consultant with 20 years of experience spanning her time as employee number 70 at Tableau through building go-to-market programs across industries. Sarah breaks down exactly what it means to operate like a CEO of your own sales business, from identifying the go-to-market levers you actually control to building an operational cadence that gets you from spending 15% of your week on deals to 40%. If you manage a sales team or lead people who do, this one is packed with frameworks you can put to work immediately. In this episode, you'll learn: * Why most sales managers miss quota because they don't understand their own individual ICP at the territory level * The go-to-market levers frontline managers control (and the ones they don't) and why knowing the difference changes everything * How to build an operational cadence that protects your coaching time and eliminates the "booked 6am to 6pm" calendar trap * The delegation framework that got one manager hours back in her week while making her reps stronger closers * What second and third-line leaders should be inspecting to find out if their frontline actually has a plan Follow The Revenue Insiders wherever you listen and leave us a rating — it helps more GTM professionals find the show. Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvL [https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvL]Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445]Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88Cg [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88Cg]Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revenue-insiders [https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revenue-insiders] Connect with Sarah Bedwell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bedwellsarah [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bedwellsarah]

Why Your Brand Sounds Like Everyone Else's AI Slop with David J. Ebner | Content Workshop

TLDR: AI made content faster. It also made everyone sound exactly the same. David J. Ebner, founder of Content Workshop and author of King Makers, breaks down why the gap between "passable" and "good" content has never been wider and what GTM teams need to do about it before their brand disappears into the noise. The AI content crisis isn't coming. It's here. Every B2B company adopted generative AI at roughly the same time, trained it on roughly the same data, and now entire industries sound like they were written by the same machine. David J. Ebner has spent 13 years building Content Workshop into one of the most respected B2B content agencies in the country, with a deep niche in cybersecurity, one of the most skeptical buyer audiences in the market. He's also the author of King Makers, where he argued long before it was popular that writers and creatives are the real kingmakers in B2B. In this episode, Kelly and Tiffany dig into what AI actually does well in the content creation process, where it falls apart, and why curiosity, emotional intentionality, and human discernment are the skills that separate brands that win from brands that blend in. David J. Ebner also shares his framework for deploying AI at the right steps of the process, why "speed to quality" beats "speed to publish," and how anyone, including job seekers building a personal brand on LinkedIn, can create content that actually makes people feel something. In This Episode: * Why the gap between "passable" and "good" content has grown wider as AI made bad content disappear * How to deploy AI in the content creation process without diluting your brand voice or creativity * The difference between content that informs and content that educates, and why only one builds trust * Why "the hero of your brand story is the audience, not you" is the most forgotten rule in B2B marketing * How job seekers and GTM professionals can build a personal brand that stands out in a sea of AI content Connect & Subscribe:Follow The Revenue Insiders wherever you listen and leave us a rating. It helps more GTM professionals find the show.Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvL [https://open.spotify.com/show/1g4cKcEX9pIDnzBxxJzUvL]Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-insiders/id1767256445]Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88Cg [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCx_Fge5kxBbKHev1C88Cg]Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revenue-insiders [https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revenue-insiders] Guest Links:Connect with David J. Ebner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjebner [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjebner] | https://contentworkshop.com [https://contentworkshop.com] | https://chatteragent.ai [https://chatteragent.ai]

The CRO Is Dead. Long Live the Chief Revenue Architect.

TLDR; Gong just renamed the CRO role to Chief Revenue Architect. That's not a branding exercise. It's a signal that the top of every go-to-market org is being rebuilt around systems, AI, and the human skills your team can't fake. This week, Dannii Mathers (SBR Consulting) joins us to call out what's actually changing and what every revenue leader needs to do about it. Full DescriptionThe shape of the revenue leader job is changing faster than most go-to-market orgs are willing to admit. AI is collapsing the work RevOps used to spend quarters on. Forecasts that took 18 months to build are getting rebuilt in two weeks. Dashboards, deal scoring, account research, even some of the coaching prep work — it's all being compressed. So what's left? The human stuff. The coaching. The connection. The ability to walk into a forecast call and read the room instead of running an interrogation. The ability to develop a frontline sales manager who was a great rep three months ago and has no idea how to lead a team today. This is the conversation we get into with Dannii Mathers, senior consultant and coach at SBR Consulting and co-host of the Growth Workshop podcast. We talk about why most AI rollouts in sales orgs are failing (hint: the head of IT is delivering the training), why enablement is the function actually built for the AI moment, why emotional intelligence is a measurable, buildable leadership skill, and why the leaders who self-rate their EQ highest are almost always the ones with the biggest blind spots. We also get into one of the most useful AI use cases we've heard for sales leaders: feeding your own meeting transcripts into an agent and asking it to flag where you're talking over your team, invalidating input, or skipping curiosity. It's an objective feedback loop that no 360 review will give you. If you're a CRO, VP Sales, VP RevOps, VP Enablement, or a senior operator headed into your first leadership seat, this one will land. In This Episode * Why Gong renamed CRO to Chief Revenue Architect, and what it tells you about where the role is going * The reason most AI rollouts in sales orgs stall, and why enablement (not IT) should own the adoption * How to use AI as an objective coach for your own EQ blind spots * Why the over-empathetic leader trap hits new managers hardest, and how to push past it * From great seller to great coach: the leadership skill that just became non-negotiable