Unfiltered with Matt & Nige Podcast
Unfiltered with Matt & Nige | Episode 12 đď¸ London is a thousand degrees. Maybe more. Nigel has already been to the gym #hero Training chat. Life chat. A bit of Barcelona. And then into the good stuff. This week the conversation talks the âjob apocalypseâ narrative. The SaaS apocalypse narrative. The constant cycle of âeverythingâs broken. Woah, thatâs all sounding a whole load less upbeat than it actually is. TLDR: the hype loops are getting faster, but the fundamentals still matter.And the real question is not whether the cycle turns.Itâs whether there are still jobs on the other side of it. This week on Unfiltered, the two talk all things:1. The âjob apocalypseâ narrative and why these cycles keep repeating, but faster 2. Subscription versus usage pricing and why SaaS might have to rethink everything3. The bubble reality check4. Guardrails in life and guardrails in tech, because without them you just meltand the quiet reminder that switching off is now a skill, not a luxury The apocalypse narratives (and why they keep coming back) Nigelâs take is simple. Weâve heard this before.SaaS is dead. AI kills everything. Jobs are gone. The sky is falling. Then three months later, everyone rebounds.Because the fundamentals are still good.The businesses that matter still have distribution, data, workflows, and customers who cannot just switch their world off overnight. But Matt brings the human point. He hopes itâs true. If the job story breaks the wrong way, thatâs not a headline. Thatâs real life. And itâs not a great look for any of us if the outcome is needing âgenerational wealthâ so we can survive the future. Subscription versus usage: the uncomfortable pricing question This is a really interesting space. If your product is getting hammered with usage, charging per usage is a beautiful model.If it isnât, a subscription model starts to look like a comfort blanket. The shift is already happening in AI and it forces SaaS to ask a slightly brutal question:Are you charging for value, or are you charging because you can? The bubble moment: âMy mate has never used ChatGPTâ We live inside a bubble. We read the threads. We talk about agents, orchestration, governance, and new operating layers like itâs normal. Then you meet someone outside the bubble and they ask:âWhat is SaaS?âOr they havenât opened ChatGPT once. Itâs refreshing. Itâs grounding. And itâs the reminder that mass adoption is always slower than the loudest people think. Guardrails are the theme, whether you like it or not Nigel says it outright. He needs guardrails in life.Food. Apps. Browsing. Time limits. Tab limits. The whole thing. Because without guardrails, you overdo it. You scroll. You snack. You measure everything. You record everything. You do everything except actually unwind. Matt agrees and pushes the âswitch offâ bit.Sometimes the best thing you can do is leave the headphones behind, hear the birds, speak to another human, recall your dog. And thatâs the bigger point of this episode. Not âAI is goodâ or âAI is badâ. Itâs that the pace is faster, the loops are tighter, and if you donât build guardrails, the cycle eats you. The big takeaway The apocalypse narratives are loud.The cycles are real.And theyâre speeding up. But the winners will not be the ones shouting the loudest.Theyâll be the ones who can keep a grip on fundamentals, adapt pricing and value models, and build guardrails for people and systems so the upside doesnât come with burnout. Subscribe for more Unfiltered every week đď¸ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unfilteredwithmattnige.substack.com [https://unfilteredwithmattnige.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]
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