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If You Can’t Kill Projects, You Can’t Innovate

48 min · 30 de abr de 2026
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AI is changing many things, not everything.Yet, many teams are jumping on the curve without knowing why. I sat down with Alexander Osterwalder, Strategyzer CEO, whom I respect a lot given his great books, especially the Invincible Company. We talked about what’s happening now. What changes? What doesn’t change? We went on discussing controversial topics like innovation is not the goal. With AI, many CEOs believe they’re forced to innovate. But that’s not true all the time. The goal remains the same. Create value for customers while collecting value for the business. To do that, you’ve got to talk to REAL people, and do something they’re ready to pay. The challenge now is another: Protecting your moats. As everyone can build stuff, copying successful models becomes easier. Companies’ll thrive for long when managing to differentiate from the crowds. Listen to this episode to gain applicable insights directly from Alex. This is a 45 minutes conversation that’ll inspire you a lot. Here are some of our key takeaways: 1. Innovation Is Not the Goal “The goal is not to innovate. The goal is the strategic goal that you define.” 2. AI ≠ Strategy “AI changes everything and it changes nothing.” 3. Synthetic Users Don’t Replace Reality “Today it does not replace talking to real customers.” 4. Explore and Exploit Are Different Games “Explore is about creating the future. Exploit is managing the existing.” 5. Kill Projects, Not Just Ideas “Killing ideas is easy… You kill projects.” 6. Evidence Beats Forecasts “That’s much stronger than the spreadsheet.” 7. Scaling Is Earned, Not Switched On “Scaling is not a light turned on.” Let’s keep untrapping the product world together. David PereiraProduct advisor & coach [http://d-pereira.com] Do You Want to Become the Achiever PM Impossible to Ignore? It’s your choice to level up your game and become the Achiever PM who’s unignorable. And I can help you get there with my 100XPM Mastermind [https://www.d-pereira.com/100x-pm]. We will run - most probably the last one for this year - in Summer. You can already apply for it. 3 weeks, 9 sessions, 1 transformation. We will equip you to operate at your next promotion level. You’ll have clarity on how to increase your visibility, gain influence, and ultimately get the deserved rewards. Apply now. [https://www.d-pereira.com/100x-pm] PS: If you still have any questions, drop me a message and I will reply to you. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dpereira.substack.com/subscribe [https://dpereira.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

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“Senior software engineers remove more code than they add.” When I read this quote from Dr. Milan Milanović [https://www.linkedin.com/in/milanmilanovic/] a few months ago, I knew he had powerful ideas that product people needed to listen to. When I first approached hi , I was surprised by how humble he is, despite having such a huge following (400K+ across platforms). He shared with me about his new book, Laws of Software Engineering [https://lawsofsoftwareengineering.com/], which I had the pleasure of reading to it. I couldn’t hold myself, but invite him for a Podcast. This episode is highly valuable for product folks who want to better understand how to transform the collaboration with engineers. It’s also refreshing hearing from a CTO the differences between developers and engineers, and what makes someone really senior. Listen to it, roughly 40 minutes that’ll give you insights on what’s happening with software engineering now, and how to leverage that. Here are a 7 topics we covered. 1. Developers jump into code; engineers stop to ask why “People who I consider to be primary developers, they are mostly focused on code... But software engineers don’t jump into code. They first stop and start to understand the why’s behind it. They ask questions first.” 2. AI makes low-quality code faster and more dangerous “In the AI world, this is even more visible because it’s easy to produce code and it’s just easy to produce a large amount of code in short time, which is much, much more dangerous than it was before.” 3. Knowing the business is an engineering superpower “Knowing the business, especially in today’s AI world and the domain very well, is a big big advantage to you. If you don’t know that, you will get into problems.” 4. High agency is the defining trait of great engineers “They will figure it out because they know they’re part of business and this is their strength. Not only how to implement this, but also on the product side, working closely to product people and with the business people.” 5. Starting complex is a trap teams walk into repeatedly “Always start simple. Start in the simplest way possible and then build up complexity from there if needed. Maybe it will never be needed, you know, and you will stay simple, which is a great thing.” 6. Parkinson’s Law: work expands to fill the time you give it “If you give people two-hour meetings they will fill this meeting up with discussions, but if you give them 45 minutes they will use those 45 minutes and maybe have the same or even better decisions.” 7. YAGNI: don’t build what no one asked for “I saw many, many times things which were built without need. Not only without the need, but without anyone asking that. They were just there, they were just built much more complex because maybe one day we will need it and that day never came. So we just needed to maintain this complex thing. — How do you move faster than everybody from idea to value? I talk to dozens of product folks every week, from IC to CxO, and one thing stand out to me. Most of them operate with an outdated system, to a point that they continuously need to fight the status quo to drive value. It doesn’t have to be that way. If you want to know how a modern operating system to drive value looks like, apply for our upcoming 100XPM [https://www.d-pereira.com/100x-pm], it will take place in August. Here’s a recommendation from our last cohort. What a great three weeks! David's insights definitely shed light on the true role of a PM, going far beyond business cards and deliverables. He empowered me to be a professional who aspires to more and has a holistic view of the problem. It also helped me improve personally. Without a doubt, these three weeks helped me become a better professional and a better person. His experience and industry connections are also very relevant for understanding where we are and where things are headed, especially in AI. - Domingo Echenique [https://www.linkedin.com/in/domingo-echenique-o-shea-29a92a148/] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dpereira.substack.com/subscribe [https://dpereira.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

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episode If You Can’t Kill Projects, You Can’t Innovate artwork

If You Can’t Kill Projects, You Can’t Innovate

AI is changing many things, not everything.Yet, many teams are jumping on the curve without knowing why. I sat down with Alexander Osterwalder, Strategyzer CEO, whom I respect a lot given his great books, especially the Invincible Company. We talked about what’s happening now. What changes? What doesn’t change? We went on discussing controversial topics like innovation is not the goal. With AI, many CEOs believe they’re forced to innovate. But that’s not true all the time. The goal remains the same. Create value for customers while collecting value for the business. To do that, you’ve got to talk to REAL people, and do something they’re ready to pay. The challenge now is another: Protecting your moats. As everyone can build stuff, copying successful models becomes easier. Companies’ll thrive for long when managing to differentiate from the crowds. Listen to this episode to gain applicable insights directly from Alex. This is a 45 minutes conversation that’ll inspire you a lot. Here are some of our key takeaways: 1. Innovation Is Not the Goal “The goal is not to innovate. The goal is the strategic goal that you define.” 2. AI ≠ Strategy “AI changes everything and it changes nothing.” 3. Synthetic Users Don’t Replace Reality “Today it does not replace talking to real customers.” 4. Explore and Exploit Are Different Games “Explore is about creating the future. Exploit is managing the existing.” 5. Kill Projects, Not Just Ideas “Killing ideas is easy… You kill projects.” 6. Evidence Beats Forecasts “That’s much stronger than the spreadsheet.” 7. Scaling Is Earned, Not Switched On “Scaling is not a light turned on.” Let’s keep untrapping the product world together. David PereiraProduct advisor & coach [http://d-pereira.com] Do You Want to Become the Achiever PM Impossible to Ignore? It’s your choice to level up your game and become the Achiever PM who’s unignorable. And I can help you get there with my 100XPM Mastermind [https://www.d-pereira.com/100x-pm]. We will run - most probably the last one for this year - in Summer. You can already apply for it. 3 weeks, 9 sessions, 1 transformation. We will equip you to operate at your next promotion level. You’ll have clarity on how to increase your visibility, gain influence, and ultimately get the deserved rewards. Apply now. [https://www.d-pereira.com/100x-pm] PS: If you still have any questions, drop me a message and I will reply to you. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dpereira.substack.com/subscribe [https://dpereira.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

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