We Heal For All: The Collective Healing Podcast
In this episode, I sit down with Fi Kahani — poet, digital nomad, and host of The Sound of Listening podcast — to talk about the practice of not knowing. Fi is someone whose worldview has been scrambled more than once, and instead of retreating, she's made that scramble a way of life. We get into what happened when people she respected came out as Trump voters, what it cost her when a close friendship couldn't survive their differences, and why she puts a disclaimer on her posts calling her own work "likely misinformation, propaganda, opinion, fluff and nonsense." This conversation covers a lot of terrain — from close relationships to the way we show up politically to pet hamsters. We talk about healing as what sustains activism, distress tolerance as a political skill, and what it actually takes to notice your own disgust toward an idea and get curious instead of shutting down. 0:00 Welcome 4:00 Fi's disclaimer: "This post is likely misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, opinion, fluff and nonsense" 6:30 The Yogananda quote — honoring and witnessing without judgment 9:00 Spiritual centrism and political nonduality 11:00 Fi's origin story and having her worldviews scrambled 14:30 Multiple realities and the limits of what we can actually know 15:00 A friendship that fell apart 17:00 Grief and letting things die so new things can come 21:00 Children are wired for justice 22:00 Healing sustains activism, not replaces it 25:00 Going within — the only landscape you can truly know 27:00 "You do not accept reality, so how could you ever accept love?" 31:00 Global shadow work 32:00 Helpful vs unhelpful thoughts 34:00 Noticing disgust toward an opposing idea and getting curious 36:00 Most people are walking the middle path of the extremes they know 39:00 Distress tolerance — from addiction therapy to politics 46:00 Unexpressed anger and the gift inside every emotion 49:00 The limitations of trying to change the world 51:30 Where to find Fi Looking for community space for your practice of ‘not knowing?’ Join one of my upcoming collective healing Circles. Meditation, storytelling & resonance practice. Learn more here [https://www.wehealforall.com/circles]. This episode is part of my April series on not knowing being a hallmark feature of our times. Subscribe to my Substack [http://wehealforall.substack.com/] to get these directly in your inbox. Connect with Fi Kahani: Instagram: @ [https://www.instagram.com/multidimensional.mama/]thesoundoflistening.podcast Substack: https://thesoundoflistening.substack.com/ Check out my book "When The World Hurts.”Read it here [https://www.amazon.com/When-World-Hurts-Worlds-Sense/dp/B0FVM5THQW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DFGLQQ9CVSCN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PCDPX6PBlj0qFWSJvvL7PpuHyZz0Kod-a-jQsUhN2piBCD-jBOMFpfd4BtJ3_Rv_a4WcjVt17rEP7eE1DR42NTg4VK69_6sIf4K1l811aDxwct5VWrJoXT193Qt0SrXXls6vChdi-DIEm8pilDFmQlA6IiZ8FLpFyA44lqasp88XXGnR_fY6xYPdaB2OCW3dxpBuNet0ZRcHmLFRTIQHI8vkEoe21cTRqqJNS_wyg00.s3-WuB27LQJGWGKldLymqpiFiyacTgmL7XsQEklv5RU&dib_tag=se&keywords=when+the+world+hurts&qid=1760893715&sprefix=,aps,101&sr=8-1]. Connect with Liz: Substack: wehealforall.substack.com Website: www.wehealforall.com IG: @wehealforall FB: @wehealforall Youtube: @wehealforall Tiktok: @wehealforall Subscribe to my Substack [wehealforall.substack.com] to get this directly in your inbox. Collective Healing Circles [https://wehealforall.as.me/?appointmentType=89190895] — Sunday's 6:30pm ET My book, When the World Hurts [https://www.wehealforall.com/book] Substack: wehealforall.substack.com Website: www.wehealforall.com IG: @wehealforall Youtube: @wehealforall Tiktok: @wehealforall FB: @wehealforall
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