Off the Mat Pod

OTM005 - The Interviewee become the Interviewer

What happens when the guest flips the script? In this deeply reflective episode, Julianne steps into the interviewer's seat and turns the conversation toward mindfulness, yoga culture, dance, community, religion, vulnerability, and the messy reality of personal growth. Ashley and Frank open up about their own journeys through yoga, teaching, identity, burnout, and healing while exploring some tough but important questions: * Why do some mindfulness communities feel… less mindful? * Can yoga teachers truly guide others while still struggling themselves? * How do mentorship, community, and accountability shape personal growth? * Why do students sometimes become emotionally attached to teachers? * Is yoga a religion, a philosophy, or something else entirely? * What happens when spirituality collides with Western religious beliefs? * How do we stay human while pursuing self-improvement? The conversation also dives into the parallels between yoga and dance culture, the importance of community over competition, and the beauty of embracing imperfection instead of chasing enlightenment. This episode is honest, thoughtful, humorous, and deeply human — a reminder that growth is rarely linear and that none of us have it all figured out. Follow Julianne: https://www.instagram.com/hikingdancer/ [https://www.instagram.com/hikingdancer/] Follow Us: https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/]

OTM004 - Hobbies as a Meditation Practice

What if your hobby could become a doorway to healing, clarity, and even the divine? In this episode, Frank welcomes his first guest, Julianne—aka “Road Runner”—a former ballroom dance instructor turned thru-hiker who’s completed thousands of miles on trails like the Appalachian and Pacific Crest. What began as burnout from constantly pouring into others became a radical journey inward—one step at a time. Julianne shares how hiking transformed into a moving meditation: a space where time bends, emotions surface, and life’s deeper truths demand attention. From injury and isolation to synchronicity and spiritual encounters, her story reveals how the trail gives you not what you want, but exactly what you need. Together, the conversation explores the contrast between expressive and introspective movement (dance vs. hiking), the vulnerability required for growth, and the surprising ways we reconnect—with ourselves, others, and something greater. If you’ve ever felt stuck, depleted, or searching for meaning, this episode might just inspire you to find your own path—whether on a trail or in your everyday life. Follow Julianne: https://www.instagram.com/hikingdancer/ [https://www.instagram.com/hikingdancer/] Follow Us: https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/]

OTM003 - What is Ayurveda?

What if your body has been speaking to you all along—you just didn’t know how to listen? In this introductory episode, we explore the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda, yoga’s “sister science,” and how it helps bring the body and mind back into balance so we can live with greater ease and clarity. Ashley breaks down the three doshas—Vata (air), Pitta (fire), and Kapha (earth)—and explains why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to health, diet, or lifestyle. Along the way, we reflect on real-life challenges—from practicing truthfulness in tough moments to navigating stress, family responsibilities, and emotional ups and downs—and how yoga philosophy helps us respond with more resilience. You’ll also learn: * Why what works for someone else might not work for you * The difference between your “true nature” and your current imbalances * How everyday choices (like food, movement, and routine) can either support or disrupt your system * A powerful Ayurvedic perspective on the root cause of disease This episode is your invitation to slow down, tune in, and start building a more intuitive relationship with your body. Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/]

OTM002 - What is Yoga?

Is yoga just stretching—or something more? In this episode, Ashley and Frank break down the meaning of yoga in simple, real-life terms. Moving beyond the common misconceptions—like needing to be flexible or fit—they explore yoga as a practice of connection: between body, mind, and breath. Through personal stories, beginner-friendly insights, and a guided three-part breath, they demystify the deeper layers of yoga—from physical postures to awareness, thought patterns, and everyday presence. Whether you’re brand new or returning to the basics, this conversation invites you to experience yoga not just on the mat, but in the middle of your daily life. You’ll explore: * What yoga actually means (and what it doesn’t) * Why flexibility isn’t required * The deeper purpose behind the practice * How breath can regulate stress in real time * Simple ways to bring yoga into your everyday life Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/]

OTM001 - Getting to Know You!

What does yoga look like off the mat—in the middle of sickness, parenting, graduate school, and real-life chaos? In this first episode, Frank and Ashley pull back the curtain and introduce themselves—not just as teachers, but as humans navigating busy, imperfect lives. From deep breaths during a hectic move to chair yoga, yoga nidra, and the challenges of staying consistent, they explore what practice really looks like beyond the studio. Ashley shares her journey from competitive dancer to yoga teacher and Ayurvedic practitioner, including the emotional turning points that shaped her path and how yoga became a tool for motherhood, healing, and connection to something deeper. Frank reflects on his unconventional path into yoga—from weight loss surgery and gym avoidance to becoming a dedicated teacher and now pursuing a calling as an interfaith chaplain. Along the way, he opens up about accessibility in yoga, learning to teach without perfection, and making ancient philosophy practical for everyday life. Together, they set the stage for a podcast rooted in authenticity, growth, and the reminder that yoga isn’t about perfection—it’s about practice. Follow us on: https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/offthematpod/]