Swurl Radio

The Hardest Pivot: Walking Away from Something That Works w/ Dan Mall | Ep 19

Dan Mall built SuperFriendly into a successful agency, working with brands like Google and scaling a network of 700+ freelancers. Then he walked away, not because it failed, but because it no longer aligned with the life he wanted. This episode goes deeper than business. Dan opens up about leadership mistakes, letting people down, navigating tough decisions, identity, and what it really means to build and walk away from something meaningful. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.   [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"

Identity Shifts, Failure, and Pricing Your Worth w/ Jonathan Stark| Ep 18

Jonathan Stark didn’t start as a pricing expert—he started as a musician chasing a dream, then pivoted into software, and eventually rebuilt his entire career around one idea: hourly billing is broken. In this episode, he shares the real journey behind that transformation—identity shifts, failed projects, career pivots, and the moment he realized businesses reward value, not effort. This is a conversation about unlearning, reinvention, and building a career that actually works. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.   [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"

From Building a Computer From Scratch to Scaling a Business w/ Maestro Stevens | Ep 17

Maestro Stevens, founder of Iconic Expressions, shares how he went from failed ventures to building a scalable business. This episode breaks down branding vs marketing, using AI to automate workflows, choosing the right clients, and the real sacrifices behind entrepreneurship. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.   [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"

Building a Business From Scratch: Storytelling, Burnout, and Side Hustles That Scale w/ Melody Beuzelin | Ep 16

Melody Beuzelin joins Swurl Radio to talk about building a career from scratch storytelling, startup lessons, burnout, and when a side hustle deserves your full attention. We get into identity, resilience, client boundaries, and why “failure” is just data. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.   [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"

Why Discipline Beats Talent w/ Amit Patel | Ep 15

What actually separates good from great when titles, resumes, and LinkedIn profiles disappear? In this episode of Swurl Radio, Eric and Ayka sit down with Amit, a visionary educator who has shaped the careers of over 3,000 tech professionals, trained teams at Spotify, the United Nations, PwC, and built one of London’s most respected design schools from a side project into a global consultancy. Together, they explore the intangibles that don’t show up on a resume: discipline, curiosity, presence, coachability, and the willingness to put in the reps when no one is watching. Drawing from sports, design, education, and Kobe Bryant’s Mamba Mentality, Amit breaks down why hard work consistently outpaces raw talent, how great coaches create growth environments, and why “learning by doing” is the only path to real mastery. This conversation is for anyone navigating a career pivot, building a company, mentoring others, or trying to stand out in a crowded, AI-driven job market — without losing their humanity. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.   [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"