That's Not What That Means

You Won

In this episode, we dive into our story. From our awkward first encounters to the first time we said “I love you"... sort of. We talk about friendship before romance, the time Olyvia ghosted Aaron when things got weird, and how he somehow remembers everything wrong. Plus, we celebrate the little wins in our family life, like Aaron taking the girls on their own daddy-daughter dates. Get ready for laughs, honesty, and a few “Wait… that’s not how it happened!” moments.

Eugene Young

Olyvia and Aaron unpack what it’s like being married with wildly different TV taste. Olyvia’s world of reality TV and cult documentaries versus Aaron’s “boy shows” full of crime, spies, and serious soundtracks. They talk about the shows they obsess over together, the nights they stay up way too late because “just one more episode,” and how those shared shows slowly turn into a whole language. Inside jokes, borrowed personalities, and quotes that make zero sense to anyone else. If you and your people communicate primarily in TV references, this one’s for you.

In To W

We’re back! Season Two of That’s Not What That Means kicks off with chaos, confessions, and a teenager behind the wheel. As our oldest starts learning how to drive, we take a hilarious look back at how we learned. Olyvia admits she’s still not exactly a good driver, while Aaron realizes he might be… slightly distracted behind the wheel. Buckle up, Season Two is officially rolling.

Chicka-Flay

Are they best friends? Do they switch places? Can we tell them apart? In this episode, we sit down with our identical twin daughters to talk about what actually comes with twin life — from the weird questions strangers ask to the reality of sharing everything (including the spotlight). We also get real about what it’s like being twin parents — the good, the hard, the hilarious — and why “two-for-one” isn’t exactly the deal people think it is. If you’ve ever said, “I’ve always wanted twins!” … this one’s for you.

The Thing

Four kids, one dog, and a multi-state move — what could go wrong? In this episode, our friends Luke and Kimber join us to talk about what it’s like to follow God with open hands… and a packed SUV. From Phoenix to Mississippi, they drove through chaos, car snacks, and crazy roadside attractions — all while chasing a call to something new. We talk about obedience, flexibility, and how many bathroom stops are too many. Whether you’re in a season of transition or just trying to survive a road trip with your family, this one’s for you.