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The Diversity Different Podcast

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Welcome to The Diversity Different Podcast, where two long-time colleagues and coauthors dive deep into the complex, messy, and sometimes absurd world of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). With years of professional experience and an unapologetically lighthearted tone, we tackle serious topics with humor and a lot of real talk. Combined, hosts Demetria Frank (JD) and Darrell Jackson (JD/PhD) bring nearly three decades of experience working in and researching diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).

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DEI Past, Present, & Future

Episode 3: The Future of DEI – Past, Present, and FutureDEI is under fire, but the fight isn’t over. In this episode of Diversity Different, we take a deep dive into the past, present, and future of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). We start by talking the "gains" DEI has made over the past six decades and the statistical evidence that proves its "effectiveness." Then, we shift to the current attacks on DEI, including the Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) Supreme Court decision and recent Executive orders targeting DEI, and the politicization of diversity efforts. Finally, we discuss what’s next—how organizations can continue the work of DEI even in a hostile climate and what strategies still work in the face of legal and political challenges. 🔹 Key Topics in This Episode:✔️ What has DEI actually accomplished? (Spoiler: A lot) ✔️ The political and legal threats to DEI today ✔️ What’s still "legally allowable"? ✔️ The best strategies to push DEI forward despite opposition

8 feb 2025 - 36 min
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Unpacking DEI v. MEI

In this episode of Diversity Different, we’re tackling the heated debate between Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and Merit, Excellence, and Intelligence (MEI). Proponents of MEI argue that organizations should focus on merit alone, claiming that diversity will happen naturally. But is merit really as objective as we think? Join us as we break down: ✨ What MEI really means and why it’s gaining traction. ✨ The flaws in the myth of “natural diversity.” ✨ How unconscious bias and systemic barriers skew our concept of merit. ✨ Why DEI isn’t about lowering standards—it’s about broadening our understanding of excellence. We’re also diving into: 💡 Real-world stats that show why diversity matters for profitability and innovation. 💡 How to expand the definition of merit to create truly inclusive workplaces. Let’s talk about how DEI and MEI can coexist and why they’re not mutually exclusive. 💬 What do you think? Can we redefine merit to include diverse perspectives and experiences? Let us know in the comments below! 📲 Follow us on social media for more DEI insights: Instagram: @diversitydifferent TikTok: @diversitydifferent LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/diversitydifferent

20 jan 2025 - 38 min
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