The Entangled Health Podcast

The Work Beneath the Work: What Mushrooms Teach Us About The Work Nobody Sees

We see the mushroom and think that's the whole organism. But the mushroom is just the visible fruiting body. The real organism is the mycelium, a vast underground network connecting root systems, sharing nutrients, sending chemical signals across the forest floor. Most of what keeps the forest alive is invisible. In this episode, we talk about the work nobody puts on a slide deck and the gifts of decomposition as a precondition for growth. And we talk about mycoremediation: fungi that break down toxins in contaminated soil. Because sometimes the ground has been poisoned by broken promises and extractive practices, and our work starts with cleaning the soil before we try to plant anything new. IN THIS EPISODE Why the most important organizational work is the work nobody sees, and what happens when you invest only in the visible outputs. Decomposition as a precondition for growth, not a sign of failure. How healthy organizations redistribute narrative capacity the way mycelial networks redistribute nutrients. And what it looks like when community engagement is genuinely symbiotic, not a one-way transaction dressed up as service. -- 🔗 Stay Connected [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Take the Quiz [https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz] → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/] Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com [mbarney@entangledhealth.com]

The Tree of Life: What Cedar Teaches Us About Endurance in Community Work

Cedar doesn't bloom and disappear. She stands, shelters, and heals, and the whole forest depends on it. In this episode, we talk about what it takes to build narrative practice that doesn't burn out, dry up, or blow over when leadership changes or funding shifts. Cedar grows slowly, roots deeply, and provides shelter year-round. Her fallen needles feed the soil. Her oils protect her without aggression. In temperate rainforests, she's a keystone species: remove cedar, and the whole system shifts. We make the case for evergreen narrative infrastructure over seasonal storytelling. We talk about why strategic pace is not the same as urgency: fast, efficient, impactful, just not urgent.  IN THIS EPISODE Why root work comes before visible growth, and what that means for StoryLab Sessions and trust-building. The argument against treating storytelling as a seasonal activity. How ethical storytelling guidelines and consent practices function like cedar's natural defenses. What it means to be a keystone in your organization, and why that's a vulnerability if it's held by one person. And why slow growth is key to the work of health and justice organizations. -- 🔗 Stay Connected [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Take the Quiz [https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz] → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/] Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com [mbarney@entangledhealth.com]

Engineer the Conditions: What Beavers Teach Us About Building for the Ecosystem

Beavers are ecosystem engineers. Their dams create wetlands, improve water quality, support biodiversity, and benefit species they'll never meet. That's the argument for narrative infrastructure at its most expansive. In this episode, we talk about why a single story is not a strategy. Rather, a story bank and healthy narrative infrastructure create conditions for stories to do their work across time, across campaigns, across staff turnover. We make the case against siloing storytelling in the comms department, because beavers don't build as individuals, they build as a colony, and narrative strategy is organizational infrastructure that everyone maintains. We also talk about planning for winter, about building narrative reserves when things are flowing so you have what you need when they're not. And about repair: the dam breaks, you fix it.  IN THIS EPISODE Why a story bank is a dam and not a filing cabinet. The ripple effects of narrative infrastructure. The case for making storytelling everyone's work, not just comms. Why building from existing organizational assets beats importing frameworks from somewhere else. What beavers and disaster response have in common. -- 🔗 Stay Connected [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Take the Quiz [https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz] → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/] Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com [mbarney@entangledhealth.com]

Reciprocity In Action: What the Three Sisters Teach Us About Real Partnership

Most organizational partnerships and coalition storytelling efforts fail because they're modeled on extraction, not reciprocity. The Three Sisters give us the antidote. The Three Sisters is a traditional Indigenous agricultural system developed primarily by the Haudenosaunee, at least 3,000 years old. Corn, beans, and squash planted together in the same mound. Corn grows tall and provides structure. Beans climb the corn and fix nitrogen in the soil that feeds everything. Squash spreads along the ground, protecting the soil and deterring pests. Together they're more space-efficient, drought-resistant, and nutritionally complete than any one crop alone. In this episode, we talk about what strengths-based collective leadership looks like when each partner contributes what they're built to contribute. We make the case for reciprocity in storytelling: the process of gathering stories should also build trust, surface strategy, and strengthen the community's own narrative capacity. And we talk about why sequence matters, because you can't plant everything at once and expect your garden to grow. IN THIS EPISODE Why different contributions beat identical efforts in coalition work. The difference between extractive storytelling and ethical storytelling that returns something to the soil. Why the Story Lab comes before the strategy and the listening comes before the design. How the same framework travels but always adapts to place. -- 🔗 Stay Connected [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Take the Quiz [https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz] → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/] Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com [mbarney@entangledhealth.com]

Story Is Infrastructure: What Orb Weaver Spiders Teach Us About Building the Web

Circulation without infrastructure is just wandering. In this episode, we meet the orb weaver spider, referred to in many Indigenous traditions as Grandmother Spider, and explore what her web-building teaches us about narrative infrastructure. The orb weaver doesn't start with the pretty spiral. She starts with structural threads connecting far-off but key anchor points. Then she builds outward, thread by thread. She dismantles and rebuilds daily, because maintenance is not failure, it's the work. And she doesn't chase. She builds a system and then senses what it catches. We talk about the Nepal story from John Paul Lederach's work: after their civil war in 2006, community groups formed "spider groups" that traveled to each divided community, listening, eating together, and listening some more. They called it a practice of collective empathy. Thread by thread, they built a web of understanding before anyone was ready for the big gathering. This is the episode where we say the thing we're always saying: story is not fluff, it's infrastructure. And Grandmother Spider has 3,000 species to back it up. IN THIS EPISODE Why narrative strategy starts with anchor points, not campaigns. How story banks work like webs: you build the infrastructure and then the stories you need for moments you couldn't predict are already there. The case against the one-and-done storytelling project. What the Nepal spider groups teach us about building understanding before convening. And what doula wisdom has to do with sensing over chasing. -- 🔗 Stay Connected [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Take the Quiz [https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz] → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/] Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health [https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health] Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com [mbarney@entangledhealth.com]