The Rough Draft - A Podcast About Writing

The Nuts & Bolts Of Freelancing

In this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the nuts and bolts of the freelance writing business - how to negotiate rates, red flags to look for, and other details. Also, the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the difference between "farther" and "further" while Loyd takes issue with the overuse and misuse of the word "unique". Take a listen. It's our most unique episode yet. 😏 Have a comment or a topic you would like us to discuss? Drop us a line [theroughdraftthewritingpodcast@gmail.com]. Kelly's Reading Recommendation The Memory Police [https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Police-Novel-Yoko-Ogawa/dp/1101911816/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HX858ZW5FY8X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z08uVMYj0wzKdxTJ3oskYWfo5QkokYufVQTmA3lqLNUrMQdkjpN9M0QCC5ANZrlP8o8TYEARN5CbjAtwdfCqtFPvFAOkDIz03DWClpgaOODvwe_CTjHCy7UFh4jA_kRqJa-B6Dm6YS60hWI-s3oI0I9EW4ItaL2oDvGW1dQtprJf1sckZLdwV22Xr9-anUdIj64m72w4yewCjVA3XihESZBXye9vJi28gDXpPFsJ4E4.cnDi086NEAq2sc7lb4J_J1WNXMZIAuyL2lVfAtqZrmk&dib_tag=se&keywords=yoko+ogawa&qid=1742690621&s=books&sprefix=yoko%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1], by Yoko Ogawa Loyd's Recommendation 1959: The Year Everything Changed [amazon.com/Memory-Police-Novel-Yoko-Ogawa/dp/1101911816/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HX858ZW5FY8X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z08uVMYj0wzKdxTJ3oskYWfo5QkokYufVQTmA3lqLNUrMQdkjpN9M0QCC5ANZrlP8o8TYEARN5CbjAtwdfCqtFPvFAOkDIz03DWClpgaOODvwe_CTjHCy7UFh4jA_kRqJa-B6Dm6YS60hWI-s3oI0I9EW4ItaL2oDvGW1dQtprJf1sckZLdwV22Xr9-anUdIj64m72w4yewCjVA3XihESZBXye9vJi28gDXpPFsJ4E4.cnDi086NEAq2sc7lb4J_J1WNXMZIAuyL2lVfAtqZrmk&dib_tag=se&keywords=yoko+ogawa&qid=1742690621&s=books&sprefix=yoko%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1], by Fred Kaplan

An Interview With Writer Joe Crowe - Alternate Title: The Blithely Spirited Badonkadonk

In this episode of The Rouge Draft, Kelly and Loyd spend some time with special guest, Joe Crowe. Joe is a talented writer, editor, comedian, sci-fi geek, and professional wrestling connoisseur, as well as a long-time friend of Kelly and Loyd.  In the wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the word “blithe” and why it should be more common while Loyd gripes about “badonkadonk"” not being a playable word in the New York TImes spelling bee. And, as always, they share their reading recommendations.  Kelly’s Recommendation Radium Girls [https://www.amazon.com/Radium-Girls-D-W-Gregory/dp/1583421904/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_pd_sbs_rvi_d_sccl_2_4/140-9959744-2812105?pd_rd_w=ACStw&content-id=amzn1.sym.46e2be74-be72-4d3f-86e1-1de279690c4e&pf_rd_p=46e2be74-be72-4d3f-86e1-1de279690c4e&pf_rd_r=SBBN745QZ4YF8CCH5KGC&pd_rd_wg=oa5vJ&pd_rd_r=b8a7a8f0-b935-4021-9cf5-fcf082bb1041&pd_rd_i=1583421904&psc=1], by D.W. Gregory Loyd’s Recommendation The Church of Baseball: The Making of Bull Durham: Home Runs, Bad Calls, Crazy Fights, Big Swings, and a Hit, [https://www.amazon.com/Church-Baseball-Making-Durham-Fights/dp/059331977X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1C6TVTY5PXSYP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NuVUqfMpBaNL4vbpusOt_g.oLvl01GhxP3U9FJxaUBCH8e7b-zZ7jAnq21OpFtkCxQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+church+of+baseball+the+making+of+bull+durham+by+ron+shelton&qid=1741549789&sprefix=the+church+of+base%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-1] by Ron Shelton

Are Music Lyrics Literature?

WE'RE BACK! After a lengthy hiatus, Kelly Rogers Flynt and Loyd McIntosh are back with a new episode of The Rough Draft. With the recent release of the new Bob Dylan biopic "A Complete Unknown," Kelly and Loyd thought it would be fun to discuss song lyrics in order to answer a serious question: are song lyrics literature. Also, in the Word Play segment, Loyd and Kelly discuss how to use the word "actually" without sounding like a pompous know-it-all, and, of course, we give our reading recommendations. We promise not to take 4 months off ever again! Kelly's Recommendation Connie: A Memoir [https://www.amazon.com/Connie-Memoir-Chung/dp/1538766981/ref=sr_1_1?crid=K411RIAW8GSF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.J8Xi6lYSN5NW852sOQ28ks3bAre1_AL865de0q0tx-4vmDLRUWzItpTTipnM9Yg8LJ_W33KkYnJNwxTApxWS7BMA5ehQ31sMrKjiwiMj9sqiMZSQQT4Gvc7cFcDTvv5KYVH5eJHWm7ZYsweDWIHd05YwV6A_6QPYF5cIjN1ZBAy1UQeCUgXbda0cFXfMhwWP.aVH0U8oKILrsZrl2FCCN2fSmoe-DzNoDYtUydDkdiSs&dib_tag=se&keywords=connie+chung+memoir&qid=1739763197&s=books&sprefix=connie%3A+a+mem%2Cstripbooks%2C192&sr=1-1], by Connie Chung Loyd's Recommendation Esses Magazine [https://www.essesmag.com/], a magazine covering the culture and passion of Grand Prix Racing.

Interview With Freelance Journalist Liz Garone

In this episode of The Rough Draft: A Writing Podcast, Kelly and Loyd chat with noted freelance journalist Liz Garone [https://authory.com/ElizabethGarone]. Liz contributes regularly to The Wall Street Journal, Time, The Washington Post, and other prominent news outlets, and shares her journey to becoming an in-demand, full-time freelance writer. Also, Kelly laments the loss of literary references in regular language and Loyd takes aim at the word “sadly.” Kelly Recommendation The Forever War [https://www.amazon.com/Forever-War-Book-ebook/dp/B00PI184XG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1307160UW1V14&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WLP_7nMSIb4uUiUtXe60ncoHtuqVrJKvt5fs2NSCMF7arJCUUpGElo6G1odx1dhLSgsgfiIXHOOEdk5U0eP8LPRtUvGwBj4nUgEbgluaRKSmGWeDCf3-rn_cpS-OVXGkVPuzrbetY6wE7DrHUNxefKCx9rbsO0D7Qv1_PICbMMPMoRmxwPfm0f--PIIUQ-47nCfES4E-i1wiIofKzVzwnTZgRaVb0xw5jfZEpA6X0fg.gSG8QMz0WFGcqqZd7xvZPIft9j2Q8T5S7APJQDwZT8U&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+forever+war+by+joe+haldeman&qid=1730140213&s=digital-text&sprefix=the+forever+war%2Cdigital-text%2C84&sr=1-1], by Joe Haldeman Loyd’s Recommendation: No Way To Treat A First Lady [https://www.amazon.com/No-Way-Treat-First-Lady-ebook/dp/B000QCSADQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XOFQ2R1YPBDJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P7HsOUX3yY1LwJ_6LPniPtNtxqd6Nv5nJfEACxai4wo2wcqm5kp-ymy7L6CbP7t8TPb1PRJ2aZOh5CfBt80rUEknReURC1IoV3ZIYyYsvLnfRbY-bKheXtYIoWhnFIpNMPC6jeeT1GP_y0RY6LrEu0vGGIpGfdA8HsbST3_CB-FfqQPkwtfwXUqxrUq8RCMgrE06G_urOaEFLe5tWzs9AL6P8hIjYBS9FaSpLpin0JA.DLbprCLl9S8H2oRX35SppYSCWPgqujRyubdFF8xlviI&dib_tag=se&keywords=no+way+to+treat+a+first+lady&qid=1730140372&s=digital-text&sprefix=no+way+to+treat+a+first+lady%2Cdigital-text%2C97&sr=1-1], by Christopher Buckley

Magazines Are Making a Comeback! (And So Are Bar Jokes)

On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the state of print publishing, especially magazines. Slick magazines hold a special place in their hearts, and even though the zine biz has taken it on the chin in recent years, they are happy to report that magazines — printed on actual paper — appear to be making a comeback! Also, in the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the various forms of the Latin root “locutio” and Loyd shares his appreciation of a-guy-walks-into-a-bar jokes. (Note from Loyd: If you have a good bar joke, send it to me at theroughdraftthewritingpodcast@gmail.com [theroughdraftthewritingpodcast@gmail.com], the longest email address on earth). Kelly’s Book Recommendation The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration [https://www.amazon.com/The-Warmth-of-Other-Suns-audiobook/dp/B004RFAIWO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BHEBLCDFWRQ2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OlefTTSXe1abokYEPFpcBOKpHKv3lEdJntRydiVarvKKS-wVPdTlSlyPCvdi0U0-SB2ajcHW1xZD1DkbqBxy4Lh_BfvTvsND6jKJ5P5i2OVLqunshfaM02qUtrH_joYgmbd4AGTFyYOSs0OzSY5ypfzWlJkOsbCvJqYQ1qqkS7EYmemX-NJ3k1dPBShk8d_lapjhqQTSlMNfsxxHBc1MLqgAQa7SjfjqFykO_b2n6iE.-6mA0QQiZP6BodktJYgY4GKlM6Ny_AM3oDVoeZDVXuY&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+warmth+of+other+suns+by+isabel+wilkerson&qid=1728834776&sprefix=the+warmth+of+%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1], by Isabel Wilkerson Loyd’s Book Recommendation Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game [https://www.amazon.com/Moneyball-Art-Winning-Unfair-Game/dp/0393324818/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ULS7P1GBV52P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5cpOig2fCKfWRX3C58BF0qYoUdZQZl7JCzo5SlyTNJsw3ol3MdxejeUxU-UIhuh-CpSqM7_NVsM0DGA4w9s5aUHNu7PKW8fq1LCXYEWJuH5vF0pdHZ2mbZYBecWHY3VuPls33drpW6Xn8TfM-kR4ToX4kAr2TyytYT6irRDcsfJleTH0nUWbz2Mm5gQyd5qjCLZqsL-191e75NFML9XUb0tY5J7u7J7F0L3d8an7-SU.Coysik6Iykng2bqEOf-iLvSePMMNIqspMj6OabgjImU&dib_tag=se&keywords=moneyball+the+art+of+winning+an+unfair+game&qid=1728834928&s=audible&sprefix=moneyball%2Caudible%2C118&sr=1-1-catcorr], by Michael Lewis