The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

The Human Connection with Jody Anderson and Jeff Chapdelaine

TLC President Maren Chaloupka sits down with psychodramatists Jody Anderson and Jeff Chapdelaine to explore the transformative role of psychodrama in trial work, healing, and human connection. Together, they discuss how psychodrama helps lawyers move beyond performance and into authentic storytelling that resonates with juries and clients alike. The conversation also previews TLC's upcoming "Homecoming: Master Class in Psychodrama" program in Nebraska City, where participants will deepen their understanding of Moreno's methods, directing techniques, and the emotional foundations of powerful advocacy.

Finding the Story with Brecken Wagner and Blake Lynch

Oklahoma trial lawyers Brecken Wagner and Blake Lynch join the TLC podcast to talk about their journey from traditional courtroom advocacy to authentic, human-centered trial work through Trial Lawyers College. With humor, honesty, and unforgettable stories, they reflect on psychodrama, jury selection, storytelling, and the powerful impact TLC has had on their practice, partnerships, and personal lives. From learning to connect with jurors to discovering empathy for even the hardest witnesses, this episode explores how vulnerability and authenticity can transform both lawyers and the cases they try.

Fighting for the Voiceless with Hank Sherrod

In this powerful episode, civil rights attorney Hank Sherrod shares his journey into civil rights litigation and the deeply human stories behind his work, including his role in the documentary The Alabama Solution. Through real-world experiences, he discusses the challenges of holding systems accountable, the importance of storytelling, and how Trial Lawyers College methods, like role reversal and discovering the story, help lawyers uncover truth and connect with juries.

Rediscovering Connection with Misty Nehring

In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, host Ron Estefan sits down with Misty Nehring to explore what happens when trial lawyers stop performing and start connecting. Drawing from her journey from overwhelmed public defender to empowered advocate, Misty shares how TLC reshaped her approach to clients, juries, and herself—transforming fear, disconnection, and burnout into authenticity, compassion, and confidence. This conversation goes beyond technique, diving into vulnerability, emotional intelligence, and the power of human connection in the courtroom. It's a powerful reflection on growth, courage, and what it truly means to show up as a lawyer—and as a person.

Trial by Story with Zander Carrie

In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, host Ron Estefan talks with defense attorney Zander Carrie about taking an apparently "unwinnable" case—meth in the defendant's system, a 10-year-old dead, and a skeptical rural courthouse—and how TLC training, brutal honesty in voir dire, and disciplined storytelling turned the case into an acquittal.