Imitate Christ: Peterson, Shapiro, and the Anabaptist Question

Imitate Christ: Peterson, Shapiro, and the Anabaptist Question

Host Jerry Eicher of Anabaptist Theological Perspectives examines a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro to explore what it means to "imitate Christ." Guests/topics discussed include Peterson’s practical triad—speak the truth, accept suffering, confront malevolence—and how those ideas resonate with early Anabaptist emphases on bearing the cross and practical holiness. The episode contrasts Peterson’s psychological and biological framing with Anabaptist and mainstream Christian theology, and addresses Ben Shapiro’s critique that insisting all should imitate Jesus is "unchristian" in conventional doctrine. Key themes include the tension between faith and works, the finished work of Christ, and whether Christ’s path is presented as a route we must walk or merely a completed act for believers. Eicher offers a synthesis arguing that Christ opened the path so believers can—and should—walk it: speaking truth, shouldering responsibility, and allowing suffering to form character, while relying on the finished work of Christ and the Spirit to make that transformation possible.

How Anabaptists Shaped Religious Freedom: A July 4th Reflection

Host Jerry Eicher reflects on the Anabaptist roots of religious freedom in an episode timed for July 4th. Guests and voices referenced include Steve Stuzman (Straight Paths Ministry), Gene Edwards, and Walter Beachy. The conversation traces the Anabaptist conviction of the church as local gathered believers, their rejection of state-backed religion and infant baptism, and the brutal persecution they endured for that stance. The episode explores how those radical ideas influenced early American thinking about separation of church and state, the framers’ experiment in religious liberty, and why conservative Anabaptists today are grateful for the protections that allow free worship. Key points include the theological basis for church autonomy, historical examples of persecution, and a grateful assessment of America’s experiment in religious freedom despite its flaws.

Barrett’s Surprise Vote: Birthright Citizenship and a Gendered Court

Jerry Eicher of Anabaptist Theological Perspectives reacts to the Supreme Court’s 5–4 decision on birthright citizenship, focusing on Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s surprising vote and Justice Kavanaugh’s different reasoning. He explains the legal stakes of the 14th Amendment debate — jus soli versus textualist readings like “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” — and what the ruling could mean politically. From there Eicher broadens the conversation to a cultural and theological critique: he argues that Barrett’s emphasis on rejecting bloodline-based citizenship reflects a wider pattern in which women in positions of authority approach justice differently — more emotionally and mercifully — than men. He illustrates this with a personal courtroom anecdote about his daughter’s J6 sentencing to show how perceived sympathy or identification can affect outcomes. The episode also examines the MeToo-era dynamics in churches and Christian organizations, warning against mob-like, emotion-driven punishments that seek organizational destruction rather than restoration. Drawing on biblical language from Micah and Amos, Eicher calls for dispassionate, scripture-rooted justice and urges listeners to resist what he sees as a problematic shift in judicial, political, and ecclesial leadership.

When Miracles Fade: Rethinking Cessationism and Spiritual Growth

Host Jerry Eicher of Anabaptist Theological Perspectives examines cessationalism—the claim that apostolic sign gifts (tongues, prophecy, healings) ended with the early church—and argues for reading the biblical story as an arc rather than a single fact. He walks through 1 Corinthians 12–13, contrasts frontier missionary contexts (e.g., Haiti) with mature Christian life, and explains why physical manifestations may diminish as believers grow into deeper inner transformation. Eicher critiques a narrow “facts-and-figures” approach to Scripture, considers diluted forms of apostolic ministry in mission settings, and proposes that the “higher gifts” are ultimately about being transformed in love rather than merely doing spectacular signs. Listeners should expect biblical analysis, practical mission observations, and a pastoral case for seeing spiritual gifts within the larger story of Christian maturity.

When Pain Stands as Proof: Suffering, Justice, and the Gospel

Host Jerry Eicher (Anabaptist Theological Perspectives) examines two recent cases—a fatal stabbing at a Frisco ISD high school track meet and disputed sexual-abuse allegations—and argues that modern culture often treats visible suffering as automatic proof of moral rightness. Drawing on Romans 1:16–17, Eicher explores what “the righteousness of God” means, critiques appeals to public emotion and spectacle, and contrasts noisy demands for relief with quiet sacrificial obedience. Topics covered include the Karmelo Anthony high-school track stabbing trial, cultural tendencies to equate suffering with innocence, the theological debate over the source of moral law (with references to Charles Finney, Jordan Peterson, and C.S. Lewis), and practical examples showing why seeking God’s righteousness matters for justice and community life. Expect a sober, biblically grounded call to resist sensationalism and recover a God-centered standard for right and wrong.