Analyzing Healthcare
Summary How PDS Health is linking dental care, oral-systemic health, Epic data sharing, and value-based care to improve whole-person outcomes. In this episode of Analyzing Healthcare, Jason Schifman speaks with Daniel Burke, Chief Enterprise Strategy Officer at PDS Health, about dental-medical integration and the mouth-body connection. Daniel explains how PDS grew through de novo expansion, dentist ownership, and innovation, while using Epic data sharing to connect oral health with broader medical outcomes. The conversation explores periodontal disease, diabetes, payer interest, value-based care, and how dental practices can support whole-person, preventive healthcare. What You’ll Learn ✅ Why PDS Health built through de novo growth ✅ How dentist ownership supports alignment ✅ Why oral health matters in chronic disease ✅ How Epic enables dental-medical collaboration ✅ Why payers are watching integrated care ✅ How PDS Health structures innovation at scale Key Timestamps (00:02) Introduction to Daniel Burke and PDS Health (01:52) Pacific Dental’s history and founder-led culture (04:14) Owner-doc model, alignment, and dentist-level accountability (05:20) Why PDS stayed independent and invested in innovation (09:13) De novo growth, under-leverage, and financial discipline (14:59) Why PDS views healthcare as relational, not transactional (22:53) Why PDS moved into integrated dental-medical care (23:27) The science behind the mouth-body connection (25:35) Gum disease, diabetes, and medical cost reduction (29:28) Epic, data sharing, and virtual collaboration (31:15) Partnership models with medical groups (33:40) Why co-located medical and dental care improves follow-through (40:30) Patient reception to integrated care (41:32) Why payers are interested in dental-medical integration (43:25) Value-based care and risk-sharing opportunities (44:35) A1C testing in dental practices (48:23) Physician fee schedule and oral health referral incentives (51:35) How PDS structures innovation at scale (55:16) Final takeaway: oral health as better healthcare Key Takeaways 💎 PDS Health grew through dentist ownership, de novo expansion, and long-term alignment. 💎 Oral health should not be separated from medical care. 💎 Periodontal disease can affect chronic conditions and medical utilization. 💎 Epic helps connect dental and medical teams through shared data. 💎 Payers see oral health as a lever for better outcomes and lower costs. 💎 Integrated care may scale through co-location, partnerships, data sharing, and value-based reimbursement. 💎 Innovation at PDS Health is supported by dedicated teams, structure, and disciplined testing. Guest Bio Daniel Burke is Chief Enterprise Strategy Officer at PDS Health, where he helps lead enterprise strategy across one of the country’s most innovative dental and integrated care platforms. PDS Health, formerly PDS, supports more than 1,000 dental practices and is advancing a model that connects oral health, medical care, data sharing, and whole-person outcomes. Daniel’s work focuses on growth strategy, dental-medical integration, payer engagement, innovation, and building scalable care models that support better patient health. Resource Links Guest: Daniel Burke – Chief Enterprise Strategy Officer, PDS HealthHost: Jason Schifman – President & Co-Founder, SCALE HealthcarePodcast: Analyzing Healthcare by SCALE CommunitySCALE Community: https://www.scale-community.com [https://www.scale-community.com] SEO Keywords PDS Health, PDS, Daniel Burke, Roy Bejarano, SCALE Healthcare, SCALE Community, Dental-Medical Integration, DSO, Dental Support Organization, Integrated Care, Oral Health, Mouth-Body Connection, Periodontal Disease, Diabetes Care, Epic Healthcare, Value-Based Care, Healthcare Innovation, Preventive Care, Payer Strategy, Dental Practices, Healthcare Strategy, Healthcare Podcast
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