Beyond the Numbers with Bev Wakefield

Leadership Is Not About Being Liked, It’s About Getting the Best From People S04 E01

1 h 13 min · 2. juli 2026
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Season 4 opens with a big one. In this first episode, Bev is joined by executive coach and Tough Talk Mentor Cheryl Thompson for a bumper conversation for business owners who need their people at their best if they want to scale, grow and stop carrying everything themselves. Cheryl shares why leadership is not about being liked, why being clear can be kinder than being comfortable, and why the conversations leaders avoid often become the problems their teams have to carry. From founder bottlenecks and unclear expectations to high performers with poor behaviours, values, communication, accountability and the pressure on women in leadership, this episode explores what it really takes to build a team that can perform without everything depending on the business owner. Because growth does not just need more clients, more revenue or more staff. It needs people who understand what good looks like, leaders who are willing to have honest conversations, and a culture strong enough to support the next stage of the business. Great teams are not built by avoiding the hard bits. They are built through clarity, trust and conversations that move people forward.

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episode Leadership Is Not About Being Liked, It’s About Getting the Best From People S04 E01 cover

Leadership Is Not About Being Liked, It’s About Getting the Best From People S04 E01

Season 4 opens with a big one. In this first episode, Bev is joined by executive coach and Tough Talk Mentor Cheryl Thompson for a bumper conversation for business owners who need their people at their best if they want to scale, grow and stop carrying everything themselves. Cheryl shares why leadership is not about being liked, why being clear can be kinder than being comfortable, and why the conversations leaders avoid often become the problems their teams have to carry. From founder bottlenecks and unclear expectations to high performers with poor behaviours, values, communication, accountability and the pressure on women in leadership, this episode explores what it really takes to build a team that can perform without everything depending on the business owner. Because growth does not just need more clients, more revenue or more staff. It needs people who understand what good looks like, leaders who are willing to have honest conversations, and a culture strong enough to support the next stage of the business. Great teams are not built by avoiding the hard bits. They are built through clarity, trust and conversations that move people forward.

2. juli 20261 h 13 min