Big F*cking Dreams
In this episode, Hannah sits down with Andrea Bombino - motherhood and career coach, matrescence expert, and longtime friend - to unpack the developmental transition into motherhood that almost no one talks about: matrescence. Coined in the 1970s and only recently brought back into the mainstream, matrescence describes the profound physical, psychological, and identity-level transformation that happens when a woman becomes a mother. Andrea breaks down why Western culture fails to recognize this transition the way it recognizes adolescence, and why high-achieving women in particular struggle to accept a season of life that doesn't match their old definition of success. This conversation goes deep into ambition after motherhood, the guilt of slowing down, burnout recovery, values-based decision making, and why creative hobbies — even five minutes of painting or journaling — are non-negotiable for staying grounded. If you're a working mother, an executive navigating parental leave, or simply someone redefining what success looks like in this season of your life, this episode is essential listening. Connect with Andrea Bombino: www.andreabombino.com www.LinkedIn.com/in/andreabombino/ Instagram: @andreabombino_ https://open.substack.com/pub/andreabombino 📩 Got a Big Fucking Dreams topic you want covered? Email hello@hannahkissel.com #matrescence #motherhoodjourney #identitymothers #workingmama #workingmom #workingwomen #maternityleave #womenintransition #parentingsupport Timestamps: 00:30 — Welcome Andrea Bombino to Big Fucking Dreams 01:30 — What is matrescence? Definition and origins of the term 03:00 — Why matrescence was rediscovered through postpartum depression research 04:00 — The different domains of matrescence: physical, relational, career, identity 05:30 — Why society treats teenage development with grace but not motherhood 06:30 — Western capitalist culture vs. how other cultures honor postpartum recovery 08:00 — Hyper-independence and the resistance to accepting support 09:30 — The shift in ambition: why some high-achieving women want to pause their careers 10:30 — Andrea's personal panic when she found out she was pregnant after a promotion 11:30 — "Pregnancy is the shortest ramp-up time for a career change" 12:30 — How ambition shifts and sharpens instead of disappearing 16:00 — Acceptance, impatience, and burnout recovery 18:00 — The invisible labor of motherhood and lack of recognition 20:30 — A constant practice in acceptance: choosing values over old definitions of success 25:00 — Behind the curtain: what "having it all together" actually requires 28:30 — Andrea's hobbies and the prioritization of fun in motherhood 30:00 — How career achievement became Andrea's sole measure of self-worth 33:30 — Finding healing through watercolor painting with her daughter 36:00 — The neuroscience of making things with your hands and lowering cortisol 39:00 — "Life is meant to be lived" — redefining what brings you joy 41:00 — The eighth-grade memory that shaped Andrea's relationship with happiness 43:00 — Why prioritizing hobbies as a mom is not selfish — bringing kids into the joy 46:00 — Moving to Italy, taking risks, and living life on your own terms 48:00 — "Do it your own way" — permission to change your mind 49:30 — Becoming more confident in who you are, the longer you're a mother 50:00 — Where to find Andrea Bombino + final thoughts
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