Why Empathetic Accountability Wins | Marc DeBevoise

Sustainability, Humanity, and the Courage to Think Long Term | Darshana Myronidis

What does it take to keep pushing for change when the world keeps resisting it? In this episode of Lead Human, Jack Myers and Tim Spengler sit down with Darshana Myronidis for a conversation about climate leadership, inclusion, resilience, and the human work of driving change inside systems that do not always want to move. Darshana shares how her South African background shaped her sense of purpose, why sustainability is really about people, and why leaders need to understand both the audience they are speaking to and the deeper values they are trying to serve. She talks about the uphill work of “selling” sustainability inside organizations, why small wins matter, and how the best change-makers learn to be multilingual across business, culture, and impact. The conversation also explores identity, exclusion, directness, joy, family, and Darshana’s powerful idea that the kitchen table and the boardroom table are not so different after all. It is a thoughtful and deeply human discussion about how we show up, how we choose our fights, and how we decide what kind of legacy we want to create. Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast. ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

Why This Heavy Metal CEO Says You Need to Break the Rules | Tricia Scott

Welcome to Lead Human! In this episode, co-host Jack Myers sits down in the Acast London studios with Tricia Scott, the powerhouse creator behind The Female CEO. Moving past standard corporate definitions, Tricia shares how her roots in the heavy metal scene taught her the ultimate value of acceptance, community, and rule-breaking. Tricia pulls back the curtain on her journey from a high-stakes corporate director secretly blogging under a pseudonym to building a global platform that redefines CEO as Create, Evolve, Overcome. She dives deep into the realities of modern female entrepreneurship, the necessity of "getting in the room" in a post-hybrid work world, and the profound personal loss that forced her to choose courage over comfort and pivot her life entirely. Whether you are navigating a massive career shift, trying to embrace new AI technology, or figuring out how to take "messy action" in your own life, Tricia's insights offer a masterclass in unleashing your true human potential. Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast. ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

Why the World Needs a New Kind of Leader | Paul Polman

What if the real job of leadership is not maximizing shareholder value, but making the world better? In this episode of Lead Human, Jack Myers and Tim Spengler sit down with Paul Polman, former CEO of Unilever, to talk about purpose-driven leadership, long-term value creation, human dignity, and why business must become a force for good. Paul reflects on the values he inherited from his parents, the formative experiences that shaped his worldview, and the choices that led him from Procter & Gamble and Nestlé to the top job at Unilever. He explains why short-termism has distorted business, why profit should be understood as a result rather than the purpose, and why leaders today need new scorecards for 21st-century challenges. They also dig into inequality, climate, trust in CEOs, collaborative leadership, the failure of MBA culture, and why the future belongs to leaders who can celebrate commonality instead of exploiting division. It’s a powerful conversation about responsibility, humanity, and what it really means to lead. Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast. ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

Rock, Humanity & the Art of “Smile F*cking” | Jack & Tim

In this special Lead Human episode, Jack Myers and Tim Spengler skip the guest interview and talk about what’s on their minds: classic rock, aging cultural icons, authenticity, and a workplace behavior Tim calls “smile f*cking.” Jack reflects on the staying power of artists like Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and the Rolling Stones, and what their longevity says about institutions, cultural identity, and the irreplaceable human role in music. From vinyl records to live performance to what it means to “wear” music as part of who we are, the conversation explores why some forms of humanity can’t be replicated by machines. Then the conversation shifts into business and leadership, with Tim unpacking a kind of fake-nice behavior he sees more often in workplaces: smiling, agreeing, and creating good vibes in the moment—without any real intent to support the idea, decision, or person afterward. It’s a candid discussion about authenticity, conflict avoidance, and whether “fake nice” is quietly becoming a management style. Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast. ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

Why Empathetic Accountability Wins | Marc DeBevoise

What does strong leadership look like when technology keeps changing the rules? In this episode of Lead Human, Jack Myers and Tim Spengler sit down with Marc DeBevoise, media and technology executive President and Board Member of OverDrive, for a conversation about empathy, accountability, AI, timing, and leading mission-driven companies through transformation. Marc shares the leadership framework he calls “empathetic accountability”—a style built around clear goals, honest expectations, and genuine support for the people doing the work. He reflects on lessons from the early internet boom, the long arc of digital transformation, and why he believes AI may follow a similar pattern: fast change up front, followed by years of deeper impact. He also explains how he helped drive urgency and turnaround at Brightcove, how he thinks about risk and timing, and why mission matters when choosing what to lead next. The conversation also dives into OverDrive’s role in literacy, education, and access to books around the world, and why Marc sees human potential—not just technology—as the real source of long-term advantage. Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast. ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.