1776 | America 250: What the Culture Says | 2

1776 | America 250: What the Culture Says | 2

What does a country sing about when it can't agree on its own founding? Why has Hollywood, which will film literally anything, never made a great movie about 1776? And when both the Black Lives Matter marchers and the January 6th rioters claim to be the true heirs of the Declaration of Independence, who actually owns the revolution? From Hamilton's founding hustlers to Beyoncé's cowboys to a White House captioning a royal portrait "two kings," Peter and Afua track the Declaration through the culture that keeps remixing it — and a country that still can't agree on what it says. [0:00] Two riots, one document, and everyone insisting they're the real sons of liberty [3:10] How a hip-hop musical about a slaveholding revolution became the biggest thing on Broadway [7:49] The friend Afua had to physically stop from walking out of Hamilton [12:27] An empty thousand-seat cinema, and the one Melania line worth hearing [16:00] The first American cowboys came from West Africa — and Beyoncé knows it [19:14] Why Hollywood will green-light anything except 1776 [23:36] The protest movement that refuses to say Trump's name [32:13] The day the White House posted a photo and called it "two kings" Join Legacy Plus for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com Join Legacy+ for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

1776 | The Legacy For Our Culture | 1

Why did African Americans spend a century celebrating the Fifth of July instead of the Fourth? Why did a sitting US president personally try to end a journalist's career over one newspaper series? And two hundred and fifty years on, why can't America agree on what its founding document actually means? A 250-year-old promise of equality collides with slavery, revolution and a modern-day tenure battle as Afua and Peter close out their Declaration of Independence series. [1:28] Fifty-six men sign in Philadelphia — many of them slave owners writing "all men are created equal" [8:07] Lafayette's regret: "I would never have drawn my sword..." [11:42] Why a Virginia senator can't stomach Bolívar's revolution [15:20] Why Black Americans spent a century celebrating the Fifth of July instead [17:27] Frederick Douglass asks the question that still stings: "What to the slave is the Fourth of July?" [18:53] The project that says America was really founded in 1619 [28:55] A sitting president personally tries to take the story down [30:54] She wins a Pulitzer. Her university refuses her tenure anyway. Join Legacy Plus for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com Join Legacy+ for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

1776 | The Women Washington Could Never Catch | 2

Who really built American freedom — and why does the answer make so many people so uncomfortable? What happens when an enslaved woman takes the Declaration of Independence more seriously than the man who wrote it? And, when the President of the United States turns the full machinery of government against one young Black woman — why can't he catch her? Belinda Sutton petitioned a court for fifty years of unpaid wages and won. Ona Judge walked out of the President's house while George Washington ate his dinner, and spent the rest of her life free. The founding story you were taught left both of them out entirely. [0:00] The founding myth and its glaring blind spot [3:00] Belinda Sutton — kidnapped at 12, enslaved for 50 years, and why she still fought back [7:50] The petition that became one of the earliest demands for reparations in American history [12:00] John Hancock signs off — and why the estate still refuses to pay [17:00] How Belinda's story spread and why Ta-Nehisi Coates and Harvard both came calling [19:30] Ona Judge — Washington's secret system for keeping his household enslaved in Pennsylvania [24:00] The night she walked out while the President ate dinner [27:30] Washington weaponises the federal government to hunt her down [31:00] She negotiates with the President — and he blinks first [34:00] "I am free" — Ona Judge's answer, fifty years later, says everything Join Legacy Plus for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com Join Legacy+ for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

1776 | The Founding Mothers | 1

The Declaration of Independence said all men are created equal. But what did that mean to the women who heard those words and knew they were being lied to? Who were the women the founding fathers never mentioned — and what did they do about it? And, if America was founded on the idea of freedom, why did it take another century — and a civil war — to even begin to make good on that promise? Afua and Peter turn the founding of America upside down, telling the story of 1776 through the women the Declaration forgot: a teenage poet who became the first Black woman in history to publish a book of poetry in English, and an enslaved woman who walked into a lawyer's office and used the Constitution to abolish slavery in Massachusetts. (0:00) The Declaration of Independence is about to turn 250 — but whose freedom was it really for? (1:43) Legacy Plus — bonus episodes, early access, and fewer ads 2:00 Why enslaved Americans didn't wait to be freed — they were already fighting (5:36) Lord Dunmore's proclamation and the moment thousands of Black men chose their side (7:48) Phillis Wheatley: kidnapped at seven, named after the slave ship that took her (9:59) From chalk letters on a wall to mastering Greek — the making of a prodigy (12:09) The court case where she had to prove she wrote her own poems (14:23) Sent to London as pro-slavery propaganda — and why it spectacularly backfired (16:12) Published in London, ignored in Boston: the first Black woman to publish poetry in English (17:23) The poem she sent to George Washington — and why he actually wrote back (18:47) They met in Cambridge in 1776: the Virginia enslaver and the young woman he couldn't ignore (20:04) How post-revolutionary America still wouldn't publish her — and how she built a subscription model 250 years before Substack (21:50) She reached Washington, Jefferson, Thomas Paine — and died at 30 in a boarding house (23:34) Elizabeth Freeman: the woman who heard the Declaration read aloud and walked straight to a lawyer (25:11) "Where's my freedom?" — the most direct question anyone asked of the founding fathers (27:05) The iron-shaped scar she refused to hide — and how she weaponised it (27:41) Bett v Ashley: the case that abolished slavery in Massachusetts (31:36 She wins not just her freedom but freedom for every enslaved person in the state — then changes her name to Elizabeth Freeman Join Legacy Plus for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com Join Legacy+ for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.

Declaration of Independence | The Brand | 2

Who wrote "all men are created equal" — and then went home to more than 180 enslaved people? What does a document actually mean when it excludes women, Indigenous peoples, and one in five of the very population it claims to liberate? And, was the Declaration of Independence a genuine statement of universal human rights — or the most successful rebranding exercise in political history? Peter and Afua tear apart the Declaration of Independence: who wrote it, what it actually meant, what was left out on purpose, and why its contradictions still define America 250 years on. (0:00) "All men are created equal" — by men who didn't believe it (9:00) Britain vs the colonies: mistrust, miscalculation, and the slide into war (14:00) Lexington, Concord, and the shot heard around the world (19:00) Lord Dunmore's offer: freedom to the enslaved — and the colonists' outrage (24:00) Thomas Paine's Common Sense and the power of simple ideas (30:00) John Hancock signs big and invents a new word for "signature" (35:00) After independence: debt, fragility, and the problems victory didn't solve (42:00) How the revolution accidentally redirected the British Empire Join Legacy Plus for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com Join Legacy+ for bonus episodes, early access, Q&A's, fewer adverts and more. legacy.supportingcast.fm Stay connected with Legacy: Instagram: @originallegacypodcast TikTok: @legacy_productions Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas: Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.