Two Kings, One Board | Anthropic vs OpenAI

Ali Kashani, Serve Robotics

Ali Kashani is the co-founder and CEO of Serve Robotics, and he has done what almost no one in Robotics  has: put robots on real streets in dozens of cities and made people love them. He is the youngest Iranian-born CEO on the Nasdaq, the youngest CEO of any robotics company on the exchange, growing revenue around 600 percent year over year and scaling from 100 robots to thousands in a single year. We also get into the part most founders never put on a slide. Between spinning out of Uber and ringing the Nasdaq bell, Serve hit its last payroll ten times. Two of those times Ali made payroll out of his own mortgage.  Ali was born in Iran and left at 17. He did his robotics PhD at the University of British Columbia on fusing LiDAR and cameras, started an energy hardware company that nearly died and then sold  I co-hosted this one with a friend of the pod Brendan, Managing Director of AI and Partner at Human Agency [https://www.humanagency.com/].   Our News Letter : https://substack.com/@seondnewsletter [https://substack.com/@seondnewsletter] Ali Kashani Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/alikashani [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alikashani] Ardalan Javadi : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/]   00:00:00 The youngest Iranian-born CEO on the Nasdaq    00:01:19 Why a public company beats a private one  00:02:47 The path to Serve: a robotics PhD and LiDAR 00:04:14 Fired, broke, and one step at a time  00:07:20 The dead company that came back  00:08:31 DARPA 2005 and the contrarian bet on LiDAR  00:12:45 Designing a robot people would forgive  00:16:04 Principle before perception  00:18:45 Building the ecosystem: NVIDIA, Magna, Uber  00:23:56 Dots versus lines, and "Exit Path"  00:26:24 Turning customer concentration into a feature  00:29:38 The real unit economics of a delivery  00:31:48  Picking cities and rolling out robots  00:33:17  The case for optimism on AI and jobs  00:37:49  Sidewalks versus streets  00:41:18  The IPO and the numbers  ‘00:42:23  Ten last payrolls and the Kashani loan  00:46:10  Two days before Christmas: the call to Jensen  00:48:50  From bankruptcy lawyers to the bell in three months  00:49:11  The coming valley and the humanoid hype  00:50:50 Where the value is in physical AI  00:53:24 Why narrow robots beat humanoids, for now  00:55:00 Don't follow trends  00:57:44 Uncertainty is the job  01:00:59  Startups as entropy reduction engines  01:02:31 Touraj, Noosheen & Pejman 01:04:39  His hope for Iran References :    https://investors.generac.com/news-releases/news-release-details/generac-announces-acquisition-neurio-technology-inc [https://investors.generac.com/news-releases/news-release-details/generac-announces-acquisition-neurio-technology-inc] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge] https://bothsidesofthetable.com/invest-in-lines-not-dots-611f36491d73 [https://bothsidesofthetable.com/invest-in-lines-not-dots-611f36491d73] https://www.therobotreport.com/four-ways-to-make-ai-products-that-people-will-love/ [https://www.therobotreport.com/four-ways-to-make-ai-products-that-people-will-love/] About Us :  Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/company/secondpodcast/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/secondpodcast/?viewAsMember=true] Twitter : /thesecondpod    Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thesecondpod/ [https://www.instagram.com/thesecondpod/] #Secondpod #Second_Pod #پادکست ـ دوم #secondpod #پادکست

$3.2B in 10 Years | Martin Basiri

Martin Basiri built ApplyBoard into a $3.2B company in 10 years, helping over 2 million students study abroad. He is among the very few Iranian immigrants to build a multibillion dollar company in North America, and ApplyBoard alone now contributes 0.6% of Canada's GDP. In this first time Martin shares his full playbook, before his first $3M raise, his vision for the future of immigration, and what he is building next with Passage, a new financial aid platform reimagining how students fund their education. Martin Basiri Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinbasiri/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinbasiri/] More about Passage : https://www.linkedin.com/posts/martinbasiri_passage-is-3-years-old-we-started-the-share-7445530978036658176-fnn4?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAABcWhnUBc4VY_Jeg2Zkx0n3jQpTTTh3xu30 [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/martinbasiri_passage-is-3-years-old-we-started-the-share-7445530978036658176-fnn4?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAABcWhnUBc4VY_Jeg2Zkx0n3jQpTTTh3xu30] Our Newsletter : https://secondnewsletter.substack.com/ [https://secondnewsletter.substack.com/] Ardalan Javadi : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/] 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒  0:00 0.6% of Canada's GDP  0:39 Martin's Introduction  2:02 The system design idea behind ApplyBoard  7:37 Did your short experience as an employee in Ohio make it clear you couldn't work for others?  9:09 Martin's philosophy on taking action 1 1:09 Martin's impact on Canada's economy  13:01 ApplyBoard is the largest study abroad company globally  13:44 The global problem in higher education  14:51 ApplyBoard as the greatest impact entrepreneurship  17:00 Passage's financial aid system  18:22 How did Martin discover the higher education problem?  28:22 Contrarian and right  29:20 Martin's insight on growth stage capital  33:41 ApplyBoard's revenue growth stats  34:52 300 no's for the first $3M  35:18 Plug and Play  39:25 Martin is the only Iranian in the past  20 years to build a $3.2 billion company as an immigrant  40:37 Martin's take on AI's long term impact on higher education  48:39 Martin's take on the future of immigration  50:00 Fertility rate  57:07 Martin's prediction on the future of study abroad and why Passage matters  1:02:00 Martin's unique insight on immigration  1:04:00 Canada's population decline this year  1:05:22 Canada's productivity decline 1:07:08 The median income of immigrants from Canada to the US is $142,000 1:08:14 The rising cost of tuition in higher education 1:09:10 What is Passage? 1:14:16 Which country has had the best immigration policy in recent years? 1:18:19 Martin Basiri's 5 toolkits for entrepreneurs

Two Kings, One Board | Anthropic vs OpenAI

We sat down in March 2026 to break down the two most important companies in AI. This episode is a full deep dive into Anthropic and OpenAI, comparing everything from corporate structure and revenue models to business strategy, research philosophy, and the politics shaping both companies. We cover the founding stories, the safety vs scale debate, enterprise adoption, fundraising dynamics, the Pentagon ban, and where both companies are headed next. Whether you're a builder, investor, or just following the AI race closely, this is the episode.   ur Newsletter : https://secondnewsletter.substack.com/ Ardalan Javadi : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/ Farzam Hejazi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/ 0:00 Introduction 49:03 Iran 3:16 Anthropic vs OpenAI summary  4:29 Revenue Chart  7:12 Story Behind OpenAI and Deepmind 12:27 Political Motivation Behind Anthropic, Effective Alterism 13:00 Why did Amodei leave OpenAI? 13:22 Anthropic Co-founders 14:25 When did the war begin? 16:00 Anthropic fundraising story  17:00 Open Philanthropy in the story?  18:22 Consumer vs Enterprise?  20:32 google did favor?  23:08 Why is Anthropic in love with regulations?  23:53 Anthropic is the master of regulatory capture  24:20 Bill Gurley about the Anthropic  25:22 Anthropic Legal team is from the Government?  25:58 How Anthropic when the government contracts? 31:18 Claude Code vs Codex? 31:56 Focus 37:50 Skill 39:44 Financial Analysis 43:39 OpenClaw 44:25 OpenClaw Stat 47:33 Codex App 51:43 Amodei Risk Strategy 59:29 Add for OpenAI 1:0:13 Department of War 1:04:00 Contract with Department of War  1:08:58 OpenAI risks 1:15:18 OpenAI and Private Equity 1:17:38 Iranian Anthropic Board Member    References :    https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/ [https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/] https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company [https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company] https://issuu.com/pomfretschool/docs/spring_2023_magazine/s/21821582#:~:text=In%20July%202015%2C%20a%20handful,start%2Dup%20incubator%20Y%20Combinator. [https://issuu.com/pomfretschool/docs/spring_2023_magazine/s/21821582#:~:text=In%20July%202015%2C%20a%20handful,start-up%20incubator%20Y%20Combinator.] https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company [https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company] https://mindmatters.ai/2024/09/silicon-valleys-trendy-ethic-effective-altruism/ [https://mindmatters.ai/2024/09/silicon-valleys-trendy-ethic-effective-altruism/] https://fortune.com/2025/12/02/daniela-amodei-anthropic-cofounder-claude-openai/ [https://fortune.com/2025/12/02/daniela-amodei-anthropic-cofounder-claude-openai/] https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-series-b-to-build-safe-reliable-ai [https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-series-b-to-build-safe-reliable-ai] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_AfZ6J0ToE [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_AfZ6J0ToE] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YpC4Dvzso [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YpC4Dvzso] https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kelly-dc/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kelly-dc/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/holden-karnofsky-75970b7/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/holden-karnofsky-75970b7/] https://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/dario-amodei-ai-entry-level-jobs [https://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/dario-amodei-ai-entry-level-jobs] https://www.anthropic.com/news/model-context-protocol [https://www.anthropic.com/news/model-context-protocol] https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/06/anthropic-deloitte-enterprise-ai.html [https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/06/anthropic-deloitte-enterprise-ai.html] https://myclaw.ai/?utm_source=ggzhuan&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23639453985&gbraid=0AAAABCxkYQOeGOrIKZhTFpHNFSyzzRfOj&gclid=CjwKCAjwspPOBhB9EiwATFbi5FOiQupWtKzL_0mzKzlnKUaEaKbKYrJ748p8hDKoqXCu_PE08pp5BRoCWsIQAvD_BwE [https://myclaw.ai/?utm_source=ggzhuan&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23639453985&gbraid=0AAAABCxkYQOeGOrIKZhTFpHNFSyzzRfOj&gclid=CjwKCAjwspPOBhB9EiwATFbi5FOiQupWtKzL_0mzKzlnKUaEaKbKYrJ748p8hDKoqXCu_PE08pp5BRoCWsIQAvD_BwE] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1E9IZfvGMA [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1E9IZfvGMA] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzwRflcLPAAZZ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzwRflcLPAAZZ] https://www.vccircle.com/openaijoins-anthropic-in-courting-private-equity-firms-for-enterprise-ai-venture [https://www.vccircle.com/openaijoins-anthropic-in-courting-private-equity-firms-for-enterprise-ai-venture] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLQXX76rEI&list=PLey29VA1L5hkYHI-J6R2emxTtiSLnsVmn [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLQXX76rEI&list=PLey29VA1L5hkYHI-J6R2emxTtiSLnsVmn] https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasminrazavi/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasminrazavi/] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/secondpodcast/?viewAsMember=true X : https://x.com/thesecondpod Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thesecondpod/   #ArdalanJavadi #هوش_مصنوعی #عامل_محور #ایجنت #سندباکس_ایجنت #کارآفرینی #استارتاپ #جذب_سرمایه #سرمایه_جسورانه #سیلیکون_ولی #SecondPod #Ardalan Javadi

Second Prize Awards 2025, Celebrating the Best Iranian AI Scientists

Why will Google & NVIDIA struggle next year? We're celebrating the best Iranian AI scientists, roboticists, VCs & startups while revealing what's coming in 2026. Newsletter : https://secondnewsletter.substack.com/ [https://secondnewsletter.substack.com/] Ardalan Javadi : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardalanjam1369/] Farzam Hejazi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/] 0:00 Introduction 3:04 Best AI Scientist of the Year 10:03 Best Roboticist of the Year  13:46 Best Robotic Startup of the year 16:25 Best Venture Capitalist of the year  33:08 Best none AI Business 38:19 Best CEO of the Year  42:06 Best AI Model or Product 48:49 Best Female in Tech or Investment  50:19 Best Podcast Episode of the year  52:01 Most Two Important Trends in 2026   References:    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.00663 [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.00663] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.23735 [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.23735] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX12aCdni9Q [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX12aCdni9Q] https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahab-mirrokni-49774112/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahab-mirrokni-49774112/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/alibehrouz/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alibehrouz/] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jux_L-Re5JA [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jux_L-Re5JA]  https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahdat/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahdat/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/pouransari/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pouransari/] https://www.arxiv.org/pdf/2510.02375 [https://www.arxiv.org/pdf/2510.02375] https://www.linkedin.com/in/alikashani/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alikashani/] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsj3nfkTHQ&t=1s&pp=ygUXVG91cmFqIFBhcmFuZyBTZWNvbmRQb2Q%3D [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsj3nfkTHQ&t=1s&pp=ygUXVG91cmFqIFBhcmFuZyBTZWNvbmRQb2Q%3D] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOC7X9lfb1k [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOC7X9lfb1k] https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettadcock/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettadcock/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorsa-sadigh-6988581a/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorsa-sadigh-6988581a/] https://x.com/dorsasadigh/status/1899981257427313037?s=46 [https://x.com/dorsasadigh/status/1899981257427313037?s=46] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Early_Career_Award_for_Scientists_and_Engineers [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Early_Career_Award_for_Scientists_and_Engineers] https://www.figure.ai [https://www.figure.ai/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cbfinn/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cbfinn/] https://www.worldlabs.ai [https://www.worldlabs.ai/] https://joincolossus.com/article/ramtin-naimi-man-hot-hand/ [https://joincolossus.com/article/ramtin-naimi-man-hot-hand/] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEICTvGNKrY [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEICTvGNKrY] https://medium.com/@annayeleferenko1995/how-cursor-anysphere-became-a-29-3b-company-in-just-a-few-years-eaf693674ef7 [https://medium.com/@annayeleferenko1995/how-cursor-anysphere-became-a-29-3b-company-in-just-a-few-years-eaf693674ef7] https://neo.com/startups [https://neo.com/startups] https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/2bsx50dfm3p7vduehik8w/culture/the-unusual-ambitions-of-chamath-palihapitiya [https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/2bsx50dfm3p7vduehik8w/culture/the-unusual-ambitions-of-chamath-palihapitiya] Ramtin N. - San Francisco Bay Area | Professional Profile | [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramtin-n-7b2b5149/]LinkedInlinkedin.com [http://linkedinlinkedin.com/] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-acquires-ai-chip-startup-150217099.html [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-acquires-ai-chip-startup-150217099.html] https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod/video/7335094802742054186 [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod/video/7335094802742054186] https://open.substack.com/pub/chamath/p/the-future-of-ai-compute-a-conversation?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email [https://open.substack.com/pub/chamath/p/the-future-of-ai-compute-a-conversation?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneoszmxRGg [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneoszmxRGg] https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohsenmoazami/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohsenmoazami/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundeepm/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundeepm/] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Ahmed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Ahmed] https://www.forbes.com/profile/adam-foroughi/ [https://www.forbes.com/profile/adam-foroughi/] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Amiri [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Amiri] https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview [https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview] https://youtu.be/38YCBtzWptU?si=UJPqZc3RWqgOe_pH [https://youtu.be/38YCBtzWptU?si=UJPqZc3RWqgOe_pH] https://www.liquid.ai/team/ramin-hasani [https://www.liquid.ai/team/ramin-hasani] Adam Foroughi - Los Angeles, California, United States | Professional Profile | [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamforoughi/]LinkedInlinkedin.com [http://linkedinlinkedin.com/] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D50_DF8Aw7S0&ved=2ahUKEwimkOaE_e2RAxV2FjQIHSHrDpIQtwJ6BAgYEAI&usg=AOvVaw2n5JBp3evO3dgwfdt0zOzT [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_DF8Aw7S0] https://www.sparkcapital.com/team-members/yasmin-razavi [https://www.sparkcapital.com/team-members/yasmin-razavi] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtNZnLkRBYA8&ved=2ahUKEwie6-79_u2RAxVMFjQIHQlVHcAQtwJ6BAgaEAI&usg=AOvVaw3f3wVywqXIx5HWqTLdJg6- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZnLkRBYA8] https://youtu.be/21EYKqUsPfg?si=pSYY0LOgQ4O_C3-5 [https://youtu.be/21EYKqUsPfg?si=pSYY0LOgQ4O_C3-5] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/secondpodcast/?viewAsMember=true X : https://x.com/thesecondpod Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thesecondpod/   #ArdalanJavadi #هوش_مصنوعی #عامل_محور #ایجنت #سندباکس_ایجنت #کارآفرینی #استارتاپ #جذب_سرمایه #سرمایه_جسورانه #سیلیکون_ولی #SecondPod

$8.5M in 10 Days with VERIS AI Founders

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