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Where investors are leaning in, with CIO Jeb Burns, Mich.MERS

35 min · 10. juni 2026
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Jeb Burns, Chief investment officer of Michigan MERS, living in a U.S. manufacturing hub, shares insights on tailwinds, where investors are leaning in, humans vs. AI, and getting his investment team out of siloes.

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