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One solution to the skills crisis - Tackle it early in schools with real construction examples

50 min · 8. juni 2026
episode One solution to the skills crisis - Tackle it early in schools with real construction examples cover

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Send a Text - Feedback Welcome [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2394957/fan_mail/new] The UK construction market needs an additional 50,000 people to join the sector every year till 2030 if it is to provide the services to which it is contracted or will be contracted.  Many of these people will be expected to join from school, colleges and universities, yet the industry has a communication problem and is competing with other, better equipped and better marketed sectors.  Unless we can encourage the right new recruits into our sector then we will fail our customers and fail to benefit fully from the opportunities in front of us. Kathryn Lennon-Johnson trained as a behavioural psychologist and set up Built Environment Skills in Schools ten years ago to support the transition of students into the construction sector.  She has been working with schools, colleges, businesses and government authorities to enhance the experience of students in construction with the purpose of empowering the next generation of stewards of our built environment.  This is a hugely important role as our sector is often mis-represented and poorly understood.  When coupled with the fragmentation of the industry with companies operating in silos, enthusing and informing the next generation can be a real challenge. Listen to this podcast to hear how the void between education and employment can be crossed.  Hear how even small employers can make an awesome difference to student outcomes and how this can be used to inform their reputation and their procurement within the sector.  Listen how to ensure that the work that you do carry out is not lost and can have a lasting impact.  Kathryn brings here experience of working with over 4,000 schools to demonstrate that our marketing skills can inform our approach and that, like our customers, a transaction approach does not help deliver long term change. Kathryn Lennon-Johnson | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkathrynlennonjohnson%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901576809%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2By7PAwdKeQ6HSWETVRrUAVBJaKRAEdM2Pbthqkk%2FDeI%3D&reserved=0] Built Environment Skills in Schools + BUILD Marketing: Overview | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fbess-built-environment-skills-in-schools%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901618872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Xs6tToT9wFUHcqBJ4EuSSHegt23gusXl3GPfVexGjh4%3D&reserved=0] SEED Schools Engagement and Early Discovery: Overview | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fseed-schools-engagement-and-early-discovery%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901658260%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HJJWEFfnLM8Fevd4hDH4DHzoXk1PzQiDfIW8u%2BwKJAg%3D&reserved=0] Design Engineer Construct (DEC) [https://designengineerconstruct.com/dec-ambassadors/] Slenky [https://business.slenky.com/] Careers & Enterprise Company [https://www.careersandenterprise.co.uk/employers/engage-with-education]

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Protecting Your Greatest Asset: Why Safeguarding matters to us all

Send a Text - Feedback Welcome [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2394957/fan_mail/new] Companies often state that people are their biggest and most important asset.  The UK construction industry has the highest suicide rate of any sector, so we might argue that we are not looking after this asset at all well. Couple this with our high percentage of neuro- diverse employees and the latest statute, the Employments Rights Act 2025, employers must raise the priority of safeguarding within their organisations, regardless of size. Xara Church is the Global Safeguarding Lead for the Halo Trust, a charity that works worldwide to reduce the impact of war on local communities.   She has worked for Oxfam and a large UK construction consultant.  She understands the importance of proper safeguards and reporting structures in supporting staff, making organisations more effective and protecting reputation.  Her appreciation of 1990s pop group Bananarama “It ain’t what you do, but the way that you do it” informs her approach to driving cultural change through out the Halo Trust. Listen to Xara on the relevance of safeguarding to all organisations.  Hear how important it is to support both the depth of safeguarding within an organisation, but also the breadth, looking at supply chain and external stakeholders, if you want to get the benefits and manage the institutional risks.  Xara explores how to treat survivors / victims and to put in place reporting structures and their management for effective controls.  Xara also talks to the values of the Halo Trust and how they are strictly applied across the world in different cultures and different settings. Listen to this podcast to understand the best-in-class practices around safeguarding and the benefits of getting this right.  Also listen if you want to support the Halo Trust and would like to know how! Xara Church | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fxara-church-22b9501a3%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cd22230a93dcf4969fc5008de9a1a59d7%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639117635159504761%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lu9BkgbgVztghMk7dgU%2FAZhbXr2SdwhTfNxsWrBqAf0%3D&reserved=0] Clearing mines, helping countries recover | The HALO Trust [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhalotrust.org%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cd22230a93dcf4969fc5008de9a1a59d7%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639117635159537149%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ESD1vPryPCWZRKDtfGvaPd5U30xh8irFs%2BdVbim2d7o%3D&reserved=0]

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Solar for the Support of Civil Society

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18. juni 202630 min
episode One solution to the skills crisis - Tackle it early in schools with real construction examples cover

One solution to the skills crisis - Tackle it early in schools with real construction examples

Send a Text - Feedback Welcome [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2394957/fan_mail/new] The UK construction market needs an additional 50,000 people to join the sector every year till 2030 if it is to provide the services to which it is contracted or will be contracted.  Many of these people will be expected to join from school, colleges and universities, yet the industry has a communication problem and is competing with other, better equipped and better marketed sectors.  Unless we can encourage the right new recruits into our sector then we will fail our customers and fail to benefit fully from the opportunities in front of us. Kathryn Lennon-Johnson trained as a behavioural psychologist and set up Built Environment Skills in Schools ten years ago to support the transition of students into the construction sector.  She has been working with schools, colleges, businesses and government authorities to enhance the experience of students in construction with the purpose of empowering the next generation of stewards of our built environment.  This is a hugely important role as our sector is often mis-represented and poorly understood.  When coupled with the fragmentation of the industry with companies operating in silos, enthusing and informing the next generation can be a real challenge. Listen to this podcast to hear how the void between education and employment can be crossed.  Hear how even small employers can make an awesome difference to student outcomes and how this can be used to inform their reputation and their procurement within the sector.  Listen how to ensure that the work that you do carry out is not lost and can have a lasting impact.  Kathryn brings here experience of working with over 4,000 schools to demonstrate that our marketing skills can inform our approach and that, like our customers, a transaction approach does not help deliver long term change. Kathryn Lennon-Johnson | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkathrynlennonjohnson%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901576809%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2By7PAwdKeQ6HSWETVRrUAVBJaKRAEdM2Pbthqkk%2FDeI%3D&reserved=0] Built Environment Skills in Schools + BUILD Marketing: Overview | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fbess-built-environment-skills-in-schools%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901618872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Xs6tToT9wFUHcqBJ4EuSSHegt23gusXl3GPfVexGjh4%3D&reserved=0] SEED Schools Engagement and Early Discovery: Overview | LinkedIn [https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fseed-schools-engagement-and-early-discovery%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdinah.downes%40evoenergy.co.uk%7Cfb0dcb7d1fa4452634c508deab9423df%7C12a84287d6ce4381a843cd0fdc9bbb1f%7C0%7C0%7C639136849901658260%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HJJWEFfnLM8Fevd4hDH4DHzoXk1PzQiDfIW8u%2BwKJAg%3D&reserved=0] Design Engineer Construct (DEC) [https://designengineerconstruct.com/dec-ambassadors/] Slenky [https://business.slenky.com/] Careers & Enterprise Company [https://www.careersandenterprise.co.uk/employers/engage-with-education]

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