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We Choose Each Other Again | Martin Luther King III & Arndrea Waters King

31 min · 2. juni 2026
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They eloped six months after his mother died. No reception, no celebration because after the world had mourned Coretta Scott King so publicly, quiet felt like the right thing to do. Twenty years later, Martin Luther King III and Arndrea Waters King are doing what they never got to do. They are standing before the people they love and saying: we choose each other. Again. On purpose. Right now. Host Esther Dillard sits down with the couple just days before their vow renewal ceremony to ask what twenty years actually looks like from the inside. What you will hear in this conversation: The blind date that almost never happened and the moment Arndrea knew The sign from Coretta Scott King on the 405 freeway on their wedding day Why they chose this particular moment in American history to recommit How Arndrea carries a public legacy without losing her private self What Coretta taught her son about love, leadership, and liberating a child to find their own path The advice they want every couple especially Black couples to carry into their own hard seasons And how two parents are feeling as their daughter Yolanda Renee King prepares to graduate and head to Columbia University This is one of the most honest and human conversations in the history of this show. Put in your earbuds and give yourself the full ride. Educator resources and discussion guides at ColorBtwLinesMarket on Etsy. Free resources at substack.com/@iamestherdillard Your story matters. Esther Dillard

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They eloped six months after his mother died. No reception, no celebration because after the world had mourned Coretta Scott King so publicly, quiet felt like the right thing to do. Twenty years later, Martin Luther King III and Arndrea Waters King are doing what they never got to do. They are standing before the people they love and saying: we choose each other. Again. On purpose. Right now. Host Esther Dillard sits down with the couple just days before their vow renewal ceremony to ask what twenty years actually looks like from the inside. What you will hear in this conversation: The blind date that almost never happened and the moment Arndrea knew The sign from Coretta Scott King on the 405 freeway on their wedding day Why they chose this particular moment in American history to recommit How Arndrea carries a public legacy without losing her private self What Coretta taught her son about love, leadership, and liberating a child to find their own path The advice they want every couple especially Black couples to carry into their own hard seasons And how two parents are feeling as their daughter Yolanda Renee King prepares to graduate and head to Columbia University This is one of the most honest and human conversations in the history of this show. Put in your earbuds and give yourself the full ride. Educator resources and discussion guides at ColorBtwLinesMarket on Etsy. Free resources at substack.com/@iamestherdillard Your story matters. Esther Dillard

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