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In this episode, Rachel A. Meidl [https://www.bakerinstitute.org/expert/rachel-meidl] is joined by Natalie Messer Betts, vice president of sustainability at the Recycled Materials Association (REMA) [https://www.recycledmaterials.org/], to discuss the growing challenge of discarded electronics — from phones and laptops to data center equipment and medical devices. They explore why the term “e-waste” can be misleading, how reuse and refurbishment can provide greater environmental benefits than recycling alone, and why only a small share of discarded electronics enters formal recovery systems. The conversation follows electronics across their full life cycle — from mining and critical minerals to trade, standards, and informal recycling — and examines how improved design, policy, measurement, and certified recycling practices can support more circular and globally connected supply chains. Featured guests: * Natalie Messer Betts [https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-betts-b2296831/] This conversation was recorded on June 5, 2026. Follow Rachel A. Meidl, LP.D., CHMM on X (@MeidlRachel [https://x.com/MeidlRachel]) and LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelmeidl/]. You can follow @BakerInstitute and @CES_Baker_Inst on X [https://twitter.com/BakerInstitute], Instagram [http://instagram.com/bakerinstitute], LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com/company/james-a--baker-iii-institute-for-public-policy---rice-university], and YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/user/bakerinstitute]. Learn more about our data-driven, nonpartisan policy research and analysis at bakerinstitute.org [http://bakerinstitute.org].
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