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Jennifer Leister | Counseling in Divorce: Giving Children a Voice Without Putting Them in the Middle

31 min · 30. mars 2026
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Episode Summary Melinda Eitzen sits down with mental health professional Jennifer Leister to discuss the critical role of a child specialist in collaborative divorce and how counseling-focused approaches can help families make more informed, child-centered decisions. In this episode, they explore how child specialists gather insight directly from children, not to make decisions, but to help parents better understand their needs, concerns, and perspectives. From everyday worries like schedules and belongings to deeper concerns about family dynamics, the conversation highlights how early, thoughtful intervention can reduce stress, improve communication, and support healthier outcomes for the entire family. About the Guest Jennifer Leister is a Dallas-based mental health professional who works extensively in collaborative divorce as a child specialist and neutral mental health professional. Her practice focuses on supporting children, teens, and families navigating divorce, high-conflict dynamics, and major life transitions. Jennifer specializes in forensic interviewing, parent coordination, reunification work, and counseling for children and families. She is known for her child-centered approach, helping parents better understand their children’s perspectives while maintaining a neutral, structured process that supports healthier decision-making. To contact Jennifer, please visit: www.jennifercounseling.com [http://www.jennifercounseling.com/]www.meetmaxbooks.com [http://www.meetmaxbooks.com/] Key Takeaways About Counseling, Child Specialists & Divorce ● The Child Specialist Role Is Child-Focused: Child specialists gather information directly from children to help parents make informed decisions, without putting kids in the position of choosing sides. ● Counseling Principles Guide the Process: While not therapy, the role uses counseling-informed techniques to reduce anxiety, answer questions, and support children through change. ● Children Worry About Different Things Than Adults: Kids often focus on practical, everyday concerns like pets, schedules, and belongings, things that parents may overlook. ● It’s Not About Asking Kids Where They Want to Live: Ethical child specialists never ask children to choose between parents but instead explore feelings, preferences, and concerns. ● Short-Term Involvement, Long-Term Impact: The role is typically brief but provides valuable insight that can prevent future conflict and misunderstandings. ● Neutrality Protects the Process: Child specialists act as neutral professionals, bringing unbiased information back to the parents and the collaborative team. ● Early Intervention Reduces Stress: Providing children with age-appropriate information and a safe space to ask questions can significantly ease anxiety during divorce. ● Team Collaboration Improves Outcomes: Working alongside attorneys and mental health professionals ensures information is accurately communicated and efficiently used. ● Counseling Support Extends Beyond Divorce: The skills and insights gained through this process often help families communicate better long after the case is resolved. Notable Quotes “Children shouldn’t be put in the position of choosing, they should be given a voice, not a decision.” “Kids worry about kid things—not always the things adults expect.” “You are choosing divorce—the divorce is happening to your children.” “Even healthy families can benefit from understanding what their kids are really thinking.” “Sometimes just answering a child’s questions can relieve most of their stress.”

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Josh Dossey & Caden Jackson | Digital Evidence in Family Law

Episode Summary In this episode of The Melinda EitzenShow, Melinda Eitzen is joined by Duffee + Eitzen associate attorneys Josh Dossey and Caden Jackson to discuss the growing role of digital evidence in family law cases. From text messages and social media posts to videos, financial records, and artificial intelligence, they explore how technology is changing the way evidence is gathered, presented, and challenged in court. The conversation covers practical issues attorneys and clients face when dealing with digital evidence, including authentication requirements, concerns about AI-generated fabrications, courtroom technology challenges, and strategies for effectively introducing evidence under strict time limitations. They also discuss the risks of social media activity during a divorce, the discoverability of financial transactions, and the increasing impact of AI tools on both litigation and settlement negotiations. Throughout the episode, Melinda, Josh, and Kaden emphasize the importance of preparation, credibility, and understanding how digital information can influence the outcome of a family law case. About the Guests Josh Dossey is an associate attorney at Duffee + Eitzen whose practice focuses on family law matters, including divorce, child custody disputes, property division, and post-divorce modifications. Josh works closely with clients to navigate both litigation and settlement while helping them effectively present evidence in court. Caden Jackson is an associate attorney at Duffee + Eitzen who represents clients in a variety of family law matters. Key Takeaways About Digital Evidence in Family Law * Digital Evidence Is Everywhere: Text messages, emails, videos, social media posts, financial transactions, and online communications frequently become evidence in family law cases. * Authentication Matters: Before digital evidence can be considered by the court, attorneys must establish that it is authentic and accurately represents what it claims to show. * AI Creates New Challenges: Artificial intelligence can generate convincing fake communications, making verification and comparison with original records more important than ever. * Context Is Critical: Screenshots rarely tell the whole story. Attorneys should review complete communication histories whenever possible. * Preparation Prevents Problems: Testing videos, audio files, and courtroom technology in advance can help to avoid costly delays during hearings and trials. * Social Media Can Be Powerful Evidence: Posts, photos, and comments can impact issues involving parenting, credibility, relationships, and financial claims. * Nothing Is Truly Deleted: Many digital communications remain recoverable through cloud storage, backups, and hard drives, even when users believe they have been erased. * Financial Records Tell Stories: Credit card statements, Venmo transactions, gambling activity, and other digital financial records can reveal important information about spending habits and asset use. * Time Management Matters: Attorneys often have limited time in court, making strategic decisions about which evidence to introduce especially important. * AI Is Also a Valuable Tool: When used appropriately, AI can help attorneys analyze large volumes of financial and documentary evidence more efficiently. Notable Quotes "Give me the whole conversation, not just the screenshot you think helps your case." "Judges are much more aware today that digital evidence can be fabricated." "Don't panic when evidence doesn't work the way you planned—ask for help and keep moving forward." "Nothing is ever really deleted." "Preparation is what turns digital evidence from a headache into a powerful tool." "Never surrender when it comes to getting important evidence before the court."

15. juni 202630 min
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Brad Craig | Improving Life for Children Between Two Homes

Melinda Eitzen welcomes longtime colleague and mental health professional Brad Craig to The Melinda Show for a thoughtful discussion about co-parenting, parenting facilitation, and helping families navigate high-conflict family law situations. Drawing from decades of experience in the mental health and family law communities, Brad shares the mission behind his Between Two Homes co-parenting course, book, and workbook—resources used by courts, attorneys, therapists, and parents across Texas and beyond. Throughout the episode, Melinda and Brad explore the emotional realities families face during divorce and separation, particularly from a child’s perspective. They discuss common co-parenting mistakes, including placing children in the middle of conflict, using children as messengers, and unintentionally creating guilt through language such as “I miss you.” Brad explains how education, empathy, and communication skills can help parents shift from being litigants to functioning co-parents focused on their children’s wellbeing. About the Guest Brad Craig is a licensed mental health professional, educator, author, and nationally recognized expert in co-parenting and high-conflict family dynamics. Brad provides parenting facilitation, co-parenting consultation, mediation support, supervised visitation services, and expert witness work throughout Texas. Through his new company, Between Two Homes Direct Services, he works with families, attorneys, and mental health professionals to promote healthier communication, reduce conflict, and prioritize children’s emotional wellbeing during and after family transitions. To contact Brad Craig, please visit Childreninthemiddle.com and Betweentwohomes.com Key Takeaways About Co-Parenting and Parenting Facilitation ● Children Should Not Be Put in the Middle: Parents often unintentionally involve children in adult conflict by using them as messengers, investigators, or emotional support systems. ● Small Language Changes Matter: Replacing phrases like “I miss you” with “I love you” or “I’m excited to see you” can help reduce feelings of guilt for children moving between two homes. ● Education Creates Better Outcomes: Parents who complete co-parenting education often gain a better understanding of conflict, communication, boundaries, and child-centered decision-making. ● Parenting Facilitation Supports Communication: Parenting facilitators help parents improve communication, resolve disputes, and focus on cooperative problem-solving rather than continued litigation. ● High-Conflict Families Need Structure: Clear communication models, boundaries, and guided negotiation techniques can help reduce escalation between co-parents. ● Mental Health Professionals Need Family Law Training: Brad emphasizes the importance of ethical, informed mental health practices within court-involved family cases. ● Collaborative and Child-Focused Approaches Matter: The goal should be helping families function more effectively after separation—not increasing conflict through litigation. Notable Quotes “Education in advance is empowerment.” “It seems so innocent to say ‘I miss you,’ but children can internalize guilt from that.” “We want parents to focus on being a family instead of litigants.” “Our job is to educate, empower, and eventually wean families off the need for intervention.” “The number one complaint I hear is: ‘I wish I had taken this sooner.’” “We all make mistakes. We just try to make new ones.”

1. juni 202633 min
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Vanessa Shepard | Mediation in Divorce: What to Expect and How to Prepare

Episode Summary Melinda Eitzen sits down with Duffee + Eitzen partner, Vanessa Sheppard, to break down the mediation process in family law cases and why it plays such a critical role in resolving disputes efficiently. They explain how mediation works, how it differs from arbitration, and why the vast majority of cases settle through this process rather than going to trial. In this episode, Melinda and Vanessa emphasize the importance of preparation, from understanding your goals and financial picture to reviewing key terms and parenting arrangements ahead of time. Ultimately, the conversation highlights how being informed, organized, and emotionally prepared can lead to better outcomes and less stress during mediation. About the Guest Vanessa Sheppard is a family law attorney based in Dallas, representing clients throughout the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex. Her practice includes divorce, child custody matters, property division, and mediation-focused resolutions. Vanessa is known for her thoughtful, client-centered approach, helping individuals navigate both litigation and settlement with a focus on achieving the best possible outcome. She is also fluent in Spanish, allowing her to serve a broader range of clients across Texas. To contact Vanessa please call 214-416-9010 or visit duffeeandeitzen.com Key Takeaways About Mediation in Family Law ● Mediation Is a Settlement Process: A neutral mediator helps both sides negotiate toward a mutually agreed resolution rather than making decisions for them. ● Most Cases Settle: Around 90% of family law cases resolve through mediation or settlement rather than trial. ● Preparation Is Critical: Clients should work with their attorney in advance to understand their goals, assets, and bottom line before mediation begins. ● Spreadsheets Matter: Accurate, up-to-date financial spreadsheets are essential to reaching a fair property division. ● Timing Impacts Success: Mediation works best after enough information has been gathered but before costly trial preparation ramps up. ● Mediated Agreements Are Binding: Once signed, a mediated settlement agreement is final and enforceable. ● Confidentiality Encourages Negotiation: Offers made in mediation cannot be used in court, allowing parties to negotiate freely. ● Flexibility in Format: Mediation can be conducted in person or via Zoom, both of which can be equally effective depending on the situation. ● Emotional Readiness Matters: Mediation involves making major life decisions in a short time, so mental and emotional preparation is key. ● Avoid Surprises: Sharing information and discussing key issues with opposing counsel beforehand can prevent delays and improve outcomes. Notable Quotes “Preparation, preparation, preparation is key to a successful mediation.” “You are not showing up to mediation to figure out your bottom line that day.” “Mediation is a confidential process—you can negotiate freely without fear of it being used against you.” “Once you sign a mediated settlement agreement, it’s binding.” “You’re the one who has to live with the outcome—make sure you understand it before signing.”

13. april 202632 min
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Jennifer Leister | Counseling in Divorce: Giving Children a Voice Without Putting Them in the Middle

Episode Summary Melinda Eitzen sits down with mental health professional Jennifer Leister to discuss the critical role of a child specialist in collaborative divorce and how counseling-focused approaches can help families make more informed, child-centered decisions. In this episode, they explore how child specialists gather insight directly from children, not to make decisions, but to help parents better understand their needs, concerns, and perspectives. From everyday worries like schedules and belongings to deeper concerns about family dynamics, the conversation highlights how early, thoughtful intervention can reduce stress, improve communication, and support healthier outcomes for the entire family. About the Guest Jennifer Leister is a Dallas-based mental health professional who works extensively in collaborative divorce as a child specialist and neutral mental health professional. Her practice focuses on supporting children, teens, and families navigating divorce, high-conflict dynamics, and major life transitions. Jennifer specializes in forensic interviewing, parent coordination, reunification work, and counseling for children and families. She is known for her child-centered approach, helping parents better understand their children’s perspectives while maintaining a neutral, structured process that supports healthier decision-making. To contact Jennifer, please visit: www.jennifercounseling.com [http://www.jennifercounseling.com/]www.meetmaxbooks.com [http://www.meetmaxbooks.com/] Key Takeaways About Counseling, Child Specialists & Divorce ● The Child Specialist Role Is Child-Focused: Child specialists gather information directly from children to help parents make informed decisions, without putting kids in the position of choosing sides. ● Counseling Principles Guide the Process: While not therapy, the role uses counseling-informed techniques to reduce anxiety, answer questions, and support children through change. ● Children Worry About Different Things Than Adults: Kids often focus on practical, everyday concerns like pets, schedules, and belongings, things that parents may overlook. ● It’s Not About Asking Kids Where They Want to Live: Ethical child specialists never ask children to choose between parents but instead explore feelings, preferences, and concerns. ● Short-Term Involvement, Long-Term Impact: The role is typically brief but provides valuable insight that can prevent future conflict and misunderstandings. ● Neutrality Protects the Process: Child specialists act as neutral professionals, bringing unbiased information back to the parents and the collaborative team. ● Early Intervention Reduces Stress: Providing children with age-appropriate information and a safe space to ask questions can significantly ease anxiety during divorce. ● Team Collaboration Improves Outcomes: Working alongside attorneys and mental health professionals ensures information is accurately communicated and efficiently used. ● Counseling Support Extends Beyond Divorce: The skills and insights gained through this process often help families communicate better long after the case is resolved. Notable Quotes “Children shouldn’t be put in the position of choosing, they should be given a voice, not a decision.” “Kids worry about kid things—not always the things adults expect.” “You are choosing divorce—the divorce is happening to your children.” “Even healthy families can benefit from understanding what their kids are really thinking.” “Sometimes just answering a child’s questions can relieve most of their stress.”

30. mars 202631 min
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Dr. Paul Stanford & Dr. Jennifer Fast | Couples Counseling at the Crossroads of Marriage and Divorce

Melinda Eitzen sits down with Dr. Paul Stanford and Dr. Jennifer Fast of Stanford Couples Counseling to discuss how therapy can help couples navigate relationship challenges and major life transitions. Drawing on their experience working with individuals and couples, they explore how counseling can help people determine whether a marriage can be repaired or whether it’s time to move forward separately. The conversation covers the common dynamic of one partner “leaning in” while the other is “leaning out,” and how discernment counseling helps couples decide whether to commit to working on the relationship or move toward separation. They also discuss common drivers of divorce, including infidelity, financial conflict, and communication breakdowns, as well as the role mental health evaluations and addiction issues can play in family law cases. Ultimately, the episode highlights how counseling, honest reflection, and the right support systems can help individuals make healthier decisions for themselves and their families. About the Guests Dr. Paul Stanford and Dr. Jennifer Fast are licensed therapists and leaders at Stanford Couples Counseling, a multi-location counseling practice serving clients throughout the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex. Their practice offers individual therapy, couples counseling, family therapy, group therapy, and psychological evaluations. Dr. Stanford works extensively with couples and individuals navigating relationship conflict, major life transitions, and personal growth. Dr. Fast specializes in psychological evaluations, interpersonal trauma, mood disorders, and women's issues. To inquiry with Dr. Stanford contact at paul@scctherapy.com [paul@scctherapy.com] or for Dr. Fast please contact  jennifer@stanfordcouplescounseling.com [jennifer@stanfordcouplescounseling.com] Or their office at http://www.stanfordcouplescounseling.com/ [http://www.stanfordcouplescounseling.com/] and 972.841.1731 Key Takeaways About Counseling, Divorce & Relationship Health ● Discernment Counseling Helps Couples Decide: When one partner is “leaning in” and the other is “leaning out,” discernment counseling can help couples determine whether to work on the relationship or separate. ● Ignoring Red Flags Can Lead to Bigger Problems Later: Early warning signs in dating relationships often resurface years later in marriage conflicts. ● Infidelity Has Complex Causes: While some affairs stem from relationship breakdowns, research shows that sometimes infidelity results simply from opportunity and poor decision-making. ● Individual Counseling Can Support Couples Therapy: Personal therapy often helps individuals process emotions and communicate more effectively during relationship challenges. ● Mental Health Treatment Is Viewed Positively in Court: Judges typically respond well when individuals acknowledge mental health challenges and actively seek treatment. ● Personality Traits vs. Disorders: Many people show traits associated with certain personality styles, but a full personality disorder involves consistent dysfunction across multiple areas of life. ● Substance Abuse Is Increasingly Impacting Families: Alcohol, marijuana, and other substances can become a coping mechanism that ultimately damages relationships. ● Addiction Can Become the “Third Party” in a Marriage: When substance use dominates attention and behavior, it often takes priority over the relationship itself. ● Healthy Coping Tools Are Critical: Therapy helps individuals replace unhealthy coping mechanisms with healthier strategies that improve both personal wellbeing and relationships. ● Counseling Can Help People Evaluate Their Next Step: Even when someone is unsure about staying in a relationship, therapy can provide clarity and perspective. Notable Quotes “Sometimes one partner is leaning in and the other is leaning out, and that’s where discernment counseling can help.” “I’ve never seen a relationship get better when only one person is working on it.” “Most people tolerate a lot more at the beginning of a relationship than they probably should.” “Addiction can become the third party in the marriage.” “Judges respond positively when someone recognizes a problem and seeks treatment.” “Healthy coping mechanisms can actually improve the problems instead of just masking them.”

17. mars 202632 min