Between The Madness - Episode 14 - He Never Let Her Go - The Murder of Deborah Depinto

Episode 327 - Author of Death – The Case of Kouri Richins

On the eve of a multimillion-dollar real estate deal in Midway, Utah, Eric Richins died after sharing a quiet celebration with his wife. What first appeared to be a tragic and unexplained death soon unraveled into a story of hidden debt, secret relationships, and a children's book that took on a chilling new meaning. How to support: For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes - Go to - Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/MadnessPod] How to connect: Website [https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/MadnessPod] Theme and Closing Track: Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madness [https://shopify.com/madness] Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness [https://quince.com/madness] for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Raycon - The Essential Open Earbuds are perfect for refreshing your routine this spring. Go to buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN [https://buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN] to get 20% off! 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Research & Writing: Ryan Deininger Editing: Aiden Wolf Sources: Kouri Richins’s son: ‘I want her to go to prison forever’ [https://www.courttv.com/news/killer-kouri-richins-faces-sentencing-on-victims-birthday/]Kouri Richins juror reveals panel was ‘hoping that she was innocent’ [https://www.courttv.com/news/kouri-richins-juror-reveals-panel-was-hoping-that-she-was-innocent/]Prosecutors paint Kouri Richins as ‘black widow’ in closing argument [https://www.courttv.com/news/prosecutors-paint-kouri-richins-as-black-widow-in-closing-argument/] Kouri Richins’ defense rests without calling a single witness [https://www.courttv.com/news/kouri-richins-defense-rests-without-calling-a-single-witness/] Texts show ghostwriter wrote children’s book, not Kouri Richins [https://www.courttv.com/news/texts-show-ghostwriter-wrote-childrens-book-not-kouri-richins/] Kouri Richins’ paramour takes the stand: ‘She asked if I had ever killed anybody’ [https://www.courttv.com/news/kouri-richins-paramour-takes-the-stand-she-asked-if-i-had-ever-killed-anybody/] ‘This is a joke’: Investigator pushes back at Kouri Richins’ defense theory of victim sexting [https://www.courttv.com/news/this-is-a-joke-investigator-pushes-back-at-kouri-richins-defense-theory-of-victim-sexting/] Kouri Richins asked for the ‘Michael Jackson stuff,’ housekeeper testifies [https://www.courttv.com/news/kouri-richins-asked-for-the-michael-jackson-stuff-housekeeper-testifies/]A Utah mom who wrote kids’ book on grief after husband died killed him for money [https://www.courttv.com/news/a-utah-mom-who-wrote-kids-book-on-grief-after-husband-died-killed-him-for-money-prosecutors-say/] Justice Is A Process [https://justiceisaprocess.com/coverage-richins]Utah Woman Found Guilty of Fatally Poisoning Husband [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/16/us/kouri-richins-murder-verdict.html]What to Know About the Kouri Richins Murder Case [https://www.nytimes.com/article/kouri-richins-husband-murder-trial.html]Children's author Kouri Richins learns her fate for poisoning husband [https://nypost.com/2026/05/13/us-news/kouri-richins-gets-life-in-prison-without-parole-for-murdering-husband/]Children's Author Accused of Poisoning Husband with Fentanyl – Her Side of the Story [https://people.com/childrens-author-accused-poisoning-husband-her-side-of-story-7963536?utm_source=chatgpt.com]Court TV Recap [https://www.courttv.com/news/ut-v-kouri-richins-grief-author-murder-trial/]What to know about the controversial ‘Walk The Dog’ letter as testimony ends [https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/03/14/kouri-richins-trial-what-know/?utm_source=chatgpt.com]Sons of convicted killer Kouri Richins worry she would hurt them if freed from prison [https://apnews.com/article/kouri-richins-murder-trial-sentencing-sons-df757461ad2c9e29a086114e24ebe9aa]Good Things Utah Interview With Kouri About Book [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7decWYj1-A&pp=ygUXZ29vZCB0aGluZ3MgdXRhaCBrb3VyaSA%3D]Juror shares why he felt Kouri Richins' was guilty of murder and other crimes [https://youtu.be/WrBZueNZUkQ?t=350]Exclusive Interview | Todd Gabler Inside the Courtroom & Investigation of the Kouri Richins Trial [https://youtu.be/fjXCMBR1MNE?t=361]

Episode 326 - Are You Having Fun? – The Murder of Leroy Fowler

On Leroy Fowler's 55th birthday in Salisbury, Massachusetts, a routine 911 call marked the beginning of a baffling investigation. Hidden beneath years of jealousy, secrets, and a complicated love triangle was a truth that no one saw coming. How to support: For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes - Go to - Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/MadnessPod] How to connect: Website [https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/MadnessPod] Theme and Closing Track: Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madness [https://shopify.com/madness] Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness [https://quince.com/madness] for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Raycon - The Essential Open Earbuds are perfect for refreshing your routine this spring. Go to buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN [https://buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN] to get 20% off! HERS - Feel like your best self again, Visit forhers.com/MADNESS [https://forhers.com/MADNESS] to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. LEAN - They’re having a Huge Memorial Day Sale and Lean is 25% off!!  Visit takelean.com [https://takelean.com/] and enter THANK YOU 25 for 25% OFF. Granola - If meetings are eating up your day, Granola is a no-brainer. You can try it totally free for three months - just head to granola.ai/MADNESS [https://www.granola.ai/MADNESS] Rula - Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. 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Research & Writing: Ryan Deininger Editing: Aiden Wolf Sources: Court TV Recap [https://www.courttv.com/news/ma-v-judy-church-death-by-antifreeze-trial/]Justiceisaprocess.com [http://justiceisaprocess.com] Salisbury woman found guilty of murdering boyfriend with antifreeze [https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2026/03/31/salisbury-woman-found-guilty-of-murdering-boyfriend-with-antifreeze/] Salisbury woman gets life without parole for poisoning boyfriend [https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2026/04/02/salisbury-woman-gets-life-without-parole-for-poisoning-boyfriend/] A voodoo doll, a love triangle, and an alleged poisoning [https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2026/03/20/salisbury-antifreeze-murder-case-judy-church/] Massachusetts Retiree Accused of Offing Her Boyfriend by Poisoning His Shakes [https://www.thedailybeast.com/retiree-judy-church-accused-of-offing-46-yr-old-boyfriend-leroy-fowler-with-poison/] Salisbury Woman Arraigned for Murder [https://www.mass.gov/news/salisbury-woman-arraigned-for-murder#:~:text=Judy%20Church%2C%2064%2C%20was%20ordered,scheduled%20for%20January%2023%2C%202023] Salisbury woman arraigned in ethylene glycol case [https://www.mass.gov/news/salisbury-woman-arraigned-in-ethylene-glycol-case#:~:text=SALEM%20%E2%80%94%20A%20Salisbury%20woman,Tucker%20announced] Salisbury woman held without bail in poisoning case [https://www.mass.gov/news/salisbury-woman-held-without-bail-in-poisoning-case#:~:text=SALEM%20%E2%80%94%20A%20Salisbury%20woman,Tucker%20announced] Judy Church Convicted for Murder in Poisoning of Leroy Fowler [https://www.essexcountyda.com/news/judy-church-convicted-for-murder-in-poisoning-of-leroy-fowler#:~:text=SALEM%2C%20Mass,and%20found%20to%20contain%20antifreeze] Leroy Fowler, Jr. Obituary [https://www.tlcfuneralhome.com/obituary/Leroy-FowlerJr] Salisbury woman accused of fatally poisoning boyfriend with windshield de-icing fluid [https://www.wcvb.com/article/salisbury-woman-accused-of-fatally-poisoning-boyfriend-with-compound-found-in-antifreeze-brake-fluid/42327804] Court TV Trial Playlist [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMD8umRLJkKwJDwD7wji9cYOhcZH7qqu0]Judy Church gets life without parole [https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/antifreeze-boyfriend-poisoned-death-judy-church/] Retired teacher accused of killing younger boyfriend with antifreeze [https://nypost.com/2022/12/26/retired-teacher-accused-of-killing-younger-boyfriend-with-antifreeze/] Oxygen [https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/judy-church-charged-leroy-fowler-antifreeze-murder] Salisbury woman Judy Church accused of poisoning boyfriend [https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2022/12/salisbury-woman-judy-church-accused-of-poisoning-boyfriend-killing-him.html] Retired school teacher charged with murdering her boyfriend by poisoning his coffee  [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11574971/Retired-school-teacher-charged-murdering-boyfriend-poisoning-coffee-antifreeze.html] Woman Pleads Not Guilty to Murdering Boyfriend, Who Was Poisoned With Antifreeze [https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/woman-pleads-not-guilty-to-murdering-boyfriend-who-was-poisoned-with-antifreeze/2969598/]

Between The Madness - Episode 14 - He Never Let Her Go - The Murder of Deborah Depinto

A routine trip to a laundry room in Boulder, Colorado, should have taken only minutes. Instead, it became the beginning of a mystery built on lies, obsession, and one silent witness that never looked away. How to support: For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes - Go to - Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/MadnessPod] How to connect: Website [https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/MadnessPod] Theme and Closing Track: Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madness [https://shopify.com/madness] Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness [https://quince.com/madness] for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Raycon - The Essential Open Earbuds are perfect for refreshing your routine this spring. Go to buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN [https://rayconglobal.com/pages/mindsofmadnessopen?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=mindsofmadnessopen&nb_platform=partner-lp&nb_ppid=podcast&nb_cpid=mindsofmadnessopen] to get 20% off! HERS - Feel like your best self again, Visit forhers.com/MADNESS [https://www.forhers.com/lp/wl-start-hers-glp1?utm_source=Audioboom&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=hers&utm_content=madness&utm_product=demeter&utm_term=rsu&utm_offer=TrueCrimeParanormal] to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. LEAN - They’re having a Huge Memorial Day Sale and Lean is 25% off!!  Visit takelean.com [https://brickhousenutrition.com/products/lean?linkId=Lean+TV_Lean+TV_TV&affluencerId=Lean+TV] and enter THANK YOU 25 for 25% OFF. Granola - If meetings are eating up your day, Granola is a no-brainer. You can try it totally free for three months - just head to granola.ai/MADNESS [https://www.granola.ai/MADNESS] Rula - Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at rula.com/madness [https://www.rula.com/madness] GhostBed - Take advantage of Spring Sale pricing, go to GhostBed.com/madness [https://www.ghostbed.com/pages/madness?utm_medium=influencer&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=madness], code MADNESS for an extra 10% off sitewide. Some exclusions apply; see site for details. Research & Writing: Sherri Smith Editing: Aiden Wolf Sources: Colorado Daily [https://www.coloradodaily.com/2019/12/18/jury-to-continue-deliberations-in-north-boulder-murder-trial/] The Wichita Eagle [https://www.kansas.com/news/nation-world/national/article213905619.html] Killers Caught on Camera S1 Episode 7 [https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200007213/s01-e07-deborah-and-emmanuel] People Magazine  [https://people.com/crime/colorado-man-caught-on-camera-strangling-wife/] The Mountain Ear [https://www.themtnear.com/articles/friends-gather-to-remember-deborah/]

Episode 325 - Butcher Nurse - The Murder of William McGuire

After closing on his dream home in Woodbridge, New Jersey, William McGuire disappeared. Days later, a gruesome discovery in the Chesapeake Bay launched an investigation where almost every piece of evidence seemed to have vanished. Sometimes, what isn't there tells the darkest story of all. How to connect: Website [https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/MadnessPod] Theme and Closing Track: Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madness [https://shopify.com/madness] Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness [https://quince.com/madness] for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Raycon - The Essential Open Earbuds are perfect for refreshing your routine this spring. Go to buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN [https://buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN] to get 20% off! HERS - Feel like your best self again, Visit forhers.com/MADNESS [https://forhers.com/MADNESS] to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. LEAN - They’re having a Huge Memorial Day Sale and Lean is 25% off!!  Visit takelean.com [https://takelean.com/] and enter THANK YOU 25 for 25% OFF. Granola - If meetings are eating up your day, Granola is a no-brainer. You can try it totally free for three months - just head to granola.ai/MADNESS [https://www.granola.ai/MADNESS] Rula - Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at rula.com/madness [https://rula.com/madness] GhostBed - Take advantage of Spring Sale pricing, go to GhostBed.com/madness [https://ghostbed.com/madness], code MADNESS for an extra 10% off sitewide. Some exclusions apply; see site for details. Research & Writing: Ryan Deininger Editing: Aiden Wolf Sources: Court TV NJ v. Melanie McGuire Playlist [https://www.courttv.com/trials/new-jersey-v-melanie-mcguire-2007/] New Jersey Attorney General’s Office Charges Wife with Murder [https://nj.gov/oag/newsreleases05/pr20050602a.html#:~:text=New%20Jersey%20Attorney%20General%E2%80%99s%20Office,Science%20and%20Dogged%20Detective%20Work] Woman Indicted in Dismemberment Slaying [https://www.southjersey.com/article/13694/Woman-Indicted-in-Dismemberment-Slaying#:~:text=The%20woman%20charged%20in%20June,a%20corpse%2C%20authorities%20said%20Wednesday] Human remains found in suitcase near Virginia Beach [https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/may-5/human-remains-found-in-suitcase-near-virginia-beach] Melanie McGuire Found Guilty of Murder [https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases07/pr20070423a.html#:~:text=NEW%20BRUNSWICK%20%E2%80%93%20Attorney%20General,Virginia%20coast%20in%20May%202004] Melanie McGuire Appeal [https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases11/pr20110316b-McGuire-opinion.pdf#:~:text=Defendant%20was%20tried%20before%20a,of%20deliberation%2C%20the%20jury%20convicted] Melanie McGuire, The ‘Suitcase Killer’ [https://allthatsinteresting.com/melanie-mcguire#:~:text=Over%20a%20period%20of%2012,%E2%80%9D] Who Is Melanie Slate McGuire, the 'Suitcase Killer'? [https://www.aetv.com/articles/melanie-mcguire-suitcase-killer] The McGuire Diaries [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-mcguire-diaries/] 'Suitcase Killer' Melanie McGuire defends innocence from inside prison [https://abcnews.com/US/suitcase-killer-melanie-mcguire-defends-innocence-inside-prison/story?id=73099717&utm_source=chatgpt.com] INSIDE CHEATING WIFE'S GRUESOME 'SUITCASE MURDER' [https://nypost.com/2007/04/29/inside-cheating-wifes-gruesome-suitcase-murder/?utm_source=chatgpt.com] McGuire timeline [https://www.nj.com/ledgerarchives/2007/07/mcguire_timeline.html] Light Is Shed On Victim, But No Clues In Murder [https://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/10/nyregion/light-is-shed-on-victim-but-no-clues-in-murder.html]

Episode 324 - A Million Reasons To Lie - The Strange Death of Kacee Terry

On a quiet summer day in Highland, Utah, 38 year old Kacee Terry was found unconscious in the basement of her grandparents' home. For years, everyone around her believed she was dying of terminal cancer. But after her death, investigators uncovered a web of deception so tangled that even they struggled to separate truth from fiction. How to support: For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes - Go to - Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/MadnessPod] How to connect: Website [https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/] Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/MadnessPod] Theme and Closing Track: Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madness [https://shopify.com/madness] Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness [https://quince.com/madness] for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Raycon - The Essential Open Earbuds are perfect for refreshing your routine this spring. Go to buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN [https://buyraycon.com/mindsofmadnessOPEN] to get 20% off! HERS - Feel like your best self again, Visit forhers.com/MADNESS [https://forhers.com/MADNESS] to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. LEAN - They’re having a Huge Memorial Day Sale and Lean is 25% off!!  Visit takelean.com [https://takelean.com/] and enter THANK YOU 25 for 25% OFF. Granola - If meetings are eating up your day, Granola is a no-brainer. You can try it totally free for three months - just head to granola.ai/MADNESS [https://www.granola.ai/MADNESS] Rula - Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at rula.com/madness [https://rula.com/madness] GhostBed - Take advantage of Spring Sale pricing, go to GhostBed.com/madness [https://ghostbed.com/madness], code MADNESS for an extra 10% off sitewide. Some exclusions apply; see site for details. Research & Writing: Ryan Deininger Editing: Aiden Wolf Sources: Utah Nurse Found Guilty of Killing Friend After Bizarre Fake Cancer Claims and $1.5M Plot [https://people.com/meggan-sundwall-guilty-insurance-plot-cancer-manslaughter-11933765] Utah Nurse Accused of Killing Friend, Who She Allegedly Convinced Had Cancer [https://people.com/nurse-accused-of-killing-friend-to-claim-million-dollar-life-insurance-policy-police-11701804] Utah nurse accused of killing friend for $1.5 million life insurance policy [https://www.abc4.com/news/crime/former-utah-nurse-accused-murder/] Utah nurse accused of murder, faking patient's cancer diagnosis to claim life insurance [https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/utah-nurse-accused-of-murder-faking-patients-cancer-diagosis-to-claim-life-insurance] Utah nurse arrested and accused of killing friend for life insurance payout [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-nurse-arrested-accused-killing-friend-life-insurance-payout-rcna197561] Utah nurse accused of killing former roommate for life insurance in yearslong plot [https://www.ksl.com/article/51279985/utah-nurse-accused-of-killing-former-roommate-for-life-insurance-in-yearslong-plot] Kacee Lyn Terry Obituary [https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/name/kacee-terry-obituary?id=56021134]Santaquin woman charged with aggravated murder in insulin death of her friend [https://www.ksl.com/article/51281867/santaquin-woman-charged-with-aggravated-murder-in-insulin-death-of-her-friend] State v. Sundwall [https://law.justia.com/cases/utah/court-of-appeals-published/2026/20251352-ca.html] Nurse Found Not Guilty of Murder in Friend’s Insulin Death, Convicted of Manslaughter [https://nurse.org/news/utah-nurse-insulin-dose-insurance-payout-scheme/] Nurse arrested, accused of killing Highland woman [https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/2025/mar/21/nurse-arrested-accused-of-killing-highland-woman-to-gain-access-to-non-existent-life-insurance-policy/#:~:text=A%20Santaquin%20nurse%20is%20facing,obtain%20her%20life%20insurance%20policy] Utah nurse arrested after allegedly killing woman for life insurance money [https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/03/22/utah-nurse-allegedly-killed/] Nurse suspected of murder reportedly married with young children [https://kutv.com/news/local/nurse-suspected-of-murder-reportedly-married-with-young-children-meggan-sundwall-kacee-terry-insulin] Law & Crime Network Trial Playlist [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT2snNGWwa64en6iyj9V7NGYikcGf4lZM] Trial underway for Utah nurse accused of killing friend she believed had cancer [https://www.eastidahonews.com/2026/03/trial-underway-for-utah-nurse-accused-of-killing-friend-she-believed-had-cancer/#:~:text=RELATED%20,life%20insurance%20in%20yearslong%20plot] Justiceisaprocess.com [http://justiceisaprocess.com]