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Max Greening - Flow: Group chat fragments

Max Greening is an artist and sound designer based in Vancouver, Canada. His practice moves between sound, installation, and conceptual art — often exploring how meaning is constructed, deconstructed, and shaped by context. For Flow, he worked on Segment 24 of the River Lech — the final stretch before the river merges with the Danube, described in the field recording notes as the Lech’s quiet goodbye. But Max didn’t use the field recording. He didn’t use the satellite imagery. He didn’t research the ecology or the history of the segment. Instead, he went for an entirely left field approach. He exported all the text messages from the Flow project’s WhatsApp group, assigned an AI voice to each participant, and played the messages back in random order. The piece is called Flow: Group chat fragments. Stripped of their original sequence, the messages illustrate something the river itself demonstrates: meaning depends on context. What happens upstream determines what can be understood downstream. Remove the order, and the story dissolves. If you’re enjoying this, consider subscribing. I’ll email you the next episodes Get full access to Art Music Science at artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe [https://artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Suzi Lamb and Nicky Rushton - The Stony One

Suzi Lamb and Nicky Rushton are musicians and long-standing collaborators based in Berlin and Newcastle. Their work together has always been rooted in a sensitivity to place, to the layered histories that accumulate in landscapes and the sounds that carry them forward. For Flow, they worked on Segment 22 of the River Lech — the stretch running through the heart of Augsburg, one of the oldest continuously settled cities in Germany. To walk beside the Lech in Augsburg is to walk beside two thousand years of human activity: Roman settlement, medieval water management, the textile industry of the nineteenth century, and today a UNESCO-listed water heritage system of 29 canals that still shapes the city’s daily life. Suzi visited Augsburg in person, walking several stretches of the river. What she felt wasn’t admiration for the engineering or the history. It was responsibility. The river, she said, needed care and attention. It needed guardianship. That word — guardianship — became the quiet centre of the piece. Not protest, not lament, but something older and more deliberate: the sense that to live beside a river is to be accountable to it, across whatever timescale you can hold in your imagination. Flow is a project by Dr Martina Cecchetto, with the scientific contribution of Dr Florian Betz and the artistic curation of Riccardo Fumagalli, in collaboration with Cities & Memory, the University of Padua (Italy), and the University of Würzburg (Germany). Get full access to Art Music Science at artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe [https://artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Gretchen Jude - Sink, Surface

Gretchen Jude is a composer and sound artist from Salt Lake City, Utah. We spoke with her while she was in Tokyo, where she was on a fellowship, she has lived and worked in Japan many times over the years. For Flow, she worked on Segment 17 of the River Lech, near Pitzling, a stretch that the scientists describe plainly: heavily modified, widely lacking natural geomorphic dynamics, not a candidate for restoration. Nothing special or remarkable. A section of river that, in the grand narrative of ecological recovery, barely registers. But Gretchen listened to the field recording and heard something the data didn’t capture: a drone. A low, persistent hum emanating from the Wasserkraftwerk — the hydropower station — that underlies the rush of water like a hidden ground note. She began to sing along with it, matching her voice to its frequencies, until she found what was there: a D-flat major triad, buried in the industrial hum of a machine converting river into electricity. That discovery changed everything about the piece. Rather than mourning what the river had lost, Gretchen imagined something stranger and more hopeful — a remystification. What if the goal wasn’t to restore the river to a pre-human state, but to restore our sense of wonder about it in whatever state it is in? Flow is a project by Dr Martina Cecchetto, with the scientific contribution of Dr Florian Betz and the artistic curation of Riccardo Fumagalli, in collaboration with Cities & Memory, the University of Padua (Italy), and the University of Würzburg (Germany). Get full access to Art Music Science at artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe [https://artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Louis Möckel - Entrophony

Louis Möckel is a musician and researcher based in Halle, Germany. His practice sits at the intersection of experimental music, sound art, and acoustic ecology — a discipline that studies ecosystems not through what can be seen, but through what can be heard. Get full access to Art Music Science at artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe [https://artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Elissa Goodrich - The River Remembers

Elissa Goodrich is a composer, vibraphonist, and sound artist based in Melbourne, Australia. Trained as a classical percussionist, she has spent years working at the intersection of contemporary music and cross-disciplinary collaboration, including ongoing work with climate scientists and fluid dynamics engineers, turning environmental data into sound and music. Get full access to Art Music Science at artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe [https://artmusicscience.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]