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This year’s ILTACON, which starts later this week, marks the second anniversary of Harbor [https://harborglobal.com/], a global expert services company formed through the merger of three long-established legal consulting firms: HBR Consulting, LAC Group, and Wilson Allen, and that formally launched at ILTACON in 2023.    The company, which counts among its clients some 80% of the 200 largest global law firms and 50% of the Fortune 500, has been making waves ever since, further expanding its services, making additional acquisitions, and scoring some notable hires to its executive team, all culminating in the news in June that it had received a majority investment from BayPine LP, a private investment firm devoted to driving digital transformation in market-leading businesses.   Part of what makes Harbor particularly interesting is that it sits at the intersection of corporate law departments, law firms, and technology providers – helping all three get more value from their partnerships. A key focus of the company’s consulting services has been artificial intelligence and on helping organizations prepare their data and infrastructures to support the use of AI.    Our guest today is the CEO of Harbor, Matt Sunderman [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattsunderman/], who before the merger was CEO of HBR Consulting and, earlier, president of its advisory services. In their conversation, Matt and host Bob Ambrogi explore Harbor's mission to provide legal departments with end-to-end solutions that span strategy, legal technology, operations, and intelligence.    They also discuss the current state of digital transformation in legal – from the opportunities and obstacles around generative AI adoption to the surprising reality that many firms are still only 10 to 40 percent cloud-enabled, and Sunderman offers his perspective on what law firms and corporate legal departments should be doing today to prepare for the next decade.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. * Paradigm [https://joinparadigm.com/], home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther [https://www.practicepanther.com/], Bill4Time [https://www.bill4time.com/], MerusCase [https://meruscase.com/] and LollyLaw [https://www.lollylaw.com/]; the e-payments platform Headnote [https://headnote.com/]; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks [https://trustbooks.com/]. * Briefpoint [https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast], eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). * Paxton [https://rebrand.ly/Paxton-LawNext-Podcast], Rapidly conduct research, accelerate drafting, and analyze documents with Paxton. What do you need to get done today?    If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

What happens when a Harvard-trained corporate lawyer, tired of copying and pasting contract language, starts reading about self-driving cars? In Shashank Bijapur's [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shashankbijapur/] case, it sparked the creation of SpotDraft [https://www.spotdraft.com/], a contract lifecycle management company that just raised $54 million in Series B funding and that counts major companies such as Airbnb among its customers. In this episode of LawNext, host Bob Ambrogi sits down with Bijapur, CEO and cofounder of SpotDraft, to explore his journey from White & Case associate to legal tech entrepreneur. It all began with that pivotal New Year's Eve moment – working on due diligence while eating Chinese food and reading about Elon Musk's self-driving cars – that made him realize something fundamental: Cars were driving themselves but lawyers were still stuck copying and pasting contract language. The conversation traces SpotDraft's evolution from its original version as an AI redlining platform to becoming a comprehensive CLM solution. Bijapur shares the hard-won lessons of pivoting when their initial AI approach proved only as accurate as a coin toss, and how co-building with early customers who believed in their vision helped shape the product into what it is today. They also dive deep into how generative AI is transforming contract management, get a preview of SpotDraft's new AI assistant called Sidebar, launching to the public next month, and discuss practical implementation challenges based on insights from SpotDraft's recent survey on AI adoption in legal departments. Looking ahead, they discuss where the CLM market is heading in the age of generative AI. Throughout the discussion, Bijapur reflects on the entrepreneurial journey itself – learning to sell when trained to be demure, developing an appetite for risk after being taught to be risk-averse, and discovering that every startup milestone brings new challenges that require completely different approaches. It's a candid look at both the technical and human sides of building a legal tech company.  Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.   * Paradigm [https://joinparadigm.com/], home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther [https://www.practicepanther.com/], Bill4Time [https://www.bill4time.com/], MerusCase [https://meruscase.com/] and LollyLaw [https://www.lollylaw.com/]; the e-payments platform Headnote [https://headnote.com/]; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks [https://trustbooks.com/]. * Briefpoint [https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast], eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). * Paxton [https://rebrand.ly/Paxton-LawNext-Podcast], Rapidly conduct research, accelerate drafting, and analyze documents with Paxton. What do you need to get done today?    If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

If generative AI was the biggest story in legal tech in 2023 and 2024, agentic AI is proving to be the most talked-about topic of 2025. Spurring this, at least in part, has been Thomson Reuters’ announcement [https://www.lawnext.com/2025/06/thomson-reuters-teases-upcoming-release-of-agentic-cocounsel-ai-for-legal-capable-of-complex-workflows.html] of its forthcoming release of a new agentic version of CoCounsel, its AI legal assistant, that will be able to plan, reason and execute complex multi-step workflows for legal professionals. On this episode of LawNext, we will dive deep into this next generation of AI legal assistants with two guests who are at the forefront of this field, leading the development of CoCounsel’s next generation: Emily Colbert [https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-colbert-738b397/] and Rawia Ashraf [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rawia-ashraf-6633959/]. Both joined Thomson Reuters back in 2013 through its acquisition of Practical Law, where they cut their teeth building practice-focused products for lawyers. Now, they are leading the charge on the evolution of CoCounsel into a new generation of agentic workflows, with Colbert overseeing CoCounsel’s litigation portfolio, while Rawia heading up product development for the transactional and corporate side. In today’s conversation, we'll explore how AI is moving beyond simple question-and-answer chatbots to become something more like a smart associate that can chain together multiple tasks, research cases, draft documents, and walk through complex legal workflows step by step. We'll also talk about the challenges of bringing cutting-edge technology to a profession that values precision and trust, learn more about what's coming this summer in CoCounsel’s next major release for legal professionals, and get Colbert’s and Ashraf’s thoughts on how all of this will reshape the practice of law.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. * Paradigm [https://joinparadigm.com/], home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther [https://www.practicepanther.com/], Bill4Time [https://www.bill4time.com/], MerusCase [https://meruscase.com/] and LollyLaw [https://www.lollylaw.com/]; the e-payments platform Headnote [https://headnote.com/]; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks [https://trustbooks.com/]. * Briefpoint [https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast], eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). * Paxton [https://rebrand.ly/Paxton-LawNext-Podcast], Rapidly conduct research, accelerate drafting, and analyze documents with Paxton. What do you need to get done today?,    If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

When legal research giant LexisNexis and legal AI giant Harvey announced a strategic alliance last month [https://www.lawnext.com/2025/06/legal-ai-platform-harvey-to-get-lexisnexis-content-and-tech-in-new-partnership-between-the-companies.html], legal tech commentator Richard Tromans called it [https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2025/06/18/lexisnexis-harvey-announce-alliance-will-share-legal-data/] “possibly the most important legal tech move in a decade.” On today’s episode of LawNext, we go deep into the partnership and its implications with Sean Fitzpatrick [https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanfitzpatricklexisnexis/], CEO of LexisNexis North America, UK & Ireland.  Through the partnership, LexisNexis will integrate its primary law content, Shepard's citations, and AI technology directly into Harvey's platform, and the two companies will jointly develop agentic AI workflows. The partnership comes on the heels of Harvey's remarkable Series E funding round, raising $300 million at a $5 billion valuation, in which RELX, LexisNexis's parent company, was a participating investor.  So what drove this alliance? In his interview with host Bob Ambrogi, Fitzpatrick reveals it wasn't a boardroom strategy session that sparked this partnership, but rather customer demand from large law firms seeking the combined power of LexisNexis's authoritative legal content and Harvey's AI capabilities. Fitzpatrick talks about what this means for the future of legal AI, how it addresses the persistent challenge of hallucinations in AI-generated legal content, and whether we're witnessing the emergence of a new model for legal tech partnerships. He also shares insights from recent ROI studies showing dramatic productivity gains for both law firms and corporate legal departments using AI tools.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. * Paradigm [https://joinparadigm.com/], home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther [https://www.practicepanther.com/], Bill4Time [https://www.bill4time.com/], MerusCase [https://meruscase.com/] and LollyLaw [https://www.lollylaw.com/]; the e-payments platform Headnote [https://headnote.com/]; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks [https://trustbooks.com/]. * Briefpoint [https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast], eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). * SpeakWrite [https://rebrand.ly/SpeakWrite-LNP]: Save time with fast, human-powered legal transcription—so you can focus on your practice * Paxton [https://rebrand.ly/Paxton-LawNext-Podcast], Rapidly conduct research, accelerate drafting, and analyze documents with Paxton. What do you need to get done today?,    If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

Supio [https://www.supio.com/], an AI-driven platform developed specifically for personal injury lawyers, has been generating a lot of buzz. On the heels of reporting record growth last year and raising $25 million in Series A funding in October, last month it raised another $60 million [https://www.lawnext.com/2025/05/legal-tech-startup-supio-secures-60-million-in-series-b-funding-to-expand-ai-platform-for-personal-injury-law.html] in a Series B round. But what do the lawyers who use the platform think of it? On today’s LawNext, we hear from one of those lawyers, as well as from the company’s cofounder and CEO. Our guests today are:   * Tyler Schneider [https://www.torhoermanlaw.com/team/tyler-schneider/], managing partner of the personal injury law firm TorHoerman Law [https://www.torhoermanlaw.com/]. Schneider was an early adopter of Supio. He and his firm used it to help obtain a $495 million verdict against Abbott Labs in a case involving allegations that cow’s milk-based infant formula caused intestinal inflammation in premature babies. * Jerry Zhou [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-zhou-supio/], the CEO of Supio who cofounded it in 2021 together with his childhood friend and coworker Kyle Lam after having held product management and engineering roles at Microsoft and Avalara.    In their conversation with host Bob Ambrogi, Zhou and Schneider talk about the development of Supio, its real-world impact on plaintiffs’ lawyers, and their wish lists for further development of the product. They also share their thoughts on how AI is likely to reshape PI practice more broadly.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. * Paradigm [https://joinparadigm.com/], home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther [https://www.practicepanther.com/], Bill4Time [https://www.bill4time.com/], MerusCase [https://meruscase.com/] and LollyLaw [https://www.lollylaw.com/]; the e-payments platform Headnote [https://headnote.com/]; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks [https://trustbooks.com/]. * Briefpoint [https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast], eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). * SpeakWrite [https://rebrand.ly/SpeakWrite-LNP]: Save time with fast, human-powered legal transcription—so you can focus on your practice   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.