Rereading I'll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip, with Nancy Hudgins

Rereading I'll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip, with Nancy Hudgins

Nancy Hudgins joins us to talk about I'll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip [https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-ll-get-there-it-better-be-worth-the-trip-john-donovan/ee0e67ba0fb6661e?ean=9780738721347&next=t], John Donavan's groundbreaking 1969 novel about a romance between two thirteen-year-old boys. Nancy is the author of Books Good Enough for You [https://bookshop.org/p/books/books-good-enough-for-you-the-storied-life-of-ursula-nordstrom-editor-of-extraordinary-children-s-books-nancy-hudgins/0b9fada784bc70f5?ean=9781419775673&next=t], a children's biography of legendary children's book editor Ursula Nordstrom, who edited I'll Get There. Mentioned on this episode:  Nancy's childhood favorites: Charlotte's Web [https://bookshop.org/p/books/charlotte-s-web-a-newbery-honor-award-winner-e-b-white/512c45636efc8d74?ean=9780064400558&next=t] by E.B. White (an Ursula Nordstrom book) The Pink Motel [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-pink-motel-carol-ryrie-brink/e2e15ceae5ade14b?ean=9781648371585&next=t] by Carol Ryrie Brink The House of Sixty Fathers [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/508836.The_House_of_Sixty_Fathers] by Meindert De Jong, illustrated by Maurice Sendak (an Ursula Nordstrom book) More Ursula Nordstrom books: Goodnight Moon [https://bookshop.org/p/books/goodnight-moon-margaret-wise-brown/51c7e53451575e98?ean=9780694003617&next=t] by Margaret Wise Brown Harold and the Purple Crayon [https://bookshop.org/p/books/harold-and-the-purple-crayon-crockett-johnson/cd561a70d6debe3c?ean=9780064430227&next=t] by Crockett Johnson Where the Wild Things Are [https://bookshop.org/p/books/where-the-wild-things-are-a-caldecott-award-winner-maurice-sendak/4207e231ad122cf0?ean=9780064431781&next=t] by Maurice Sendak It's Like This, Cat [https://bookshop.org/p/books/it-s-like-this-cat-emily-neville/bd94c392af96daf4?ean=9781420973532&next=t] by Emily Neville Harriet the Spy [https://bookshop.org/p/books/harriet-the-spy-50th-anniversary-edition-louise-fitzhugh/9b603564049b59e8?ean=9780385376105&next=t] by Louise Fitzhugh William's Doll [https://bookshop.org/p/books/william-s-doll-charlotte-zolotow/adedcb9838b698e2?ean=9780064430678&next=t] by Charlotte Zolatow Stevie [https://bookshop.org/p/books/stevie-john-steptoe/7581a95997769c8e?ean=9780064431224&next=t] by John Steptoe The Secret Language [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/716097.The_Secret_Language?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=NkIutKDA0f&rank=1] by Ursula Nordstrom Little Bear [https://bookshop.org/p/books/little-bear-else-holmelund-minarik/02f9bd29d3a9212b?ean=9780064440042&next=t] by Else Holmelund Minarik, illustrated by Maurice Sendak Freaky Friday [https://bookshop.org/p/books/freaky-friday-mary-rodgers/8489c78831528d32?ean=9780063454118&next=t] and A Billion for Boris [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/808095.A_Billion_for_Boris] by Mary Rodgers In the Night Kitchen [https://bookshop.org/p/books/in-the-night-kitchen-a-caldecott-honor-award-winner-maurice-sendak/d05648ee78f04a08?ean=9780064434362&next=t] by Maurice Sendak. (You can read an excerpt from Books Good Enough for You about In the Night Kitchen, published in Publisher's Weekly, here [https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-authors/article/99940-excerpt-books-good-enough-for-you-the-storied-life-of-ursula-nordstrom-editor-of-extraordinary-children-s-books.html].)  Also mentioned: Dear Genius: The Letters of Ursula Nordstrom [https://bookshop.org/p/books/dear-genius-the-letters-of-ursula-nordstrom-leonard-s-marcus/33b374196cd57202?ean=9780064462358&next=t], edited by Leonard Marcus Time magazine's 2021 list of the top 100 young adult books of all time [https://time.com/collections/100-best-ya-books/], which includes I'll Get There [https://time.com/collections/100-best-ya-books/6084561/ill-get-there-it-better-be-worth-the-trip/'] 2009 Publisher's Weekly article [https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/new-titles/adult-announcements/article/13959-flux-to-issue-40th-anniversary-edition-of-seminal-john-donovan-novel.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com] about the 40th anniversary reissue of I'll Get There 2014 Los Angeles Review of Books article by Rumaan Alam [https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/worth-trip/] about I'll Get There Born Free (movie trailer here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A96-OMejbys]) The audiobook [https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9798898850388-books-good-enough-for-you?srsltid=AfmBOooah6cZzImOoM_STrAc13U1iFm_-FEk4HxB_H8FNModmCVxAdoj] of Books Good Enough for You, narrated by Barbara Rosenblatt Recommended for fans of I'll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip: Nancy: Annie on My Mind [https://bookshop.org/p/books/annie-on-my-mind-nancy-garden/1c5e7fa3ffe0c2df?ean=9780374400118&next=t] by Nancy Garden; A High Five for Glenn Burke [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-high-five-for-glenn-burke-phil-bildner/b8b621d879c48654?ean=9781250763280&next=t] by Phil Bildner Deborah: The Catcher in the Rye [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye-j-d-salinger/23b672c993f96a10?ean=9780316769488&next=t] by J.D. Salinger; Harriet the Spy [https://bookshop.org/p/books/harriet-the-spy-50th-anniversary-edition-louise-fitzhugh/9b603564049b59e8?ean=9780385376105&next=t] by Louise Fitzhugh Mary Grace: Bertram Cope's Year [https://bookshop.org/p/books/bertram-cope-s-year-henry-blake-fuller/608a72d26930cb06?ean=9781454962397&next=t] by Henry Blake Fuller Recommended Ursula Nordstrom books: Nancy: All sixteen books discussed in Books Good Enough for You, especially A Hole is to Dig [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-hole-is-to-dig-a-first-book-of-first-definitions-ruth-krauss/d837d8f4d781a4b3?ean=9780062645012&next=t] by Ruth Krauss Deborah: Harriet the Spy [https://bookshop.org/p/books/harriet-the-spy-50th-anniversary-edition-louise-fitzhugh/9b603564049b59e8?ean=9780385376105&next=t] by Louise Fitzhugh; Charlotte's Web [https://bookshop.org/p/books/charlotte-s-web-a-newbery-honor-award-winner-e-b-white/512c45636efc8d74?ean=9780064400558&next=t] by E.B. White Mary Grace: Freaky Friday [https://bookshop.org/p/books/freaky-friday-mary-rodgers/8489c78831528d32?ean=9780063454118&next=t] by Mary Rodgers Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes: Rereading Caddie Woodlawn by Carol Ryrie Brink [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13981583-rereading-caddie-woodlawn-by-carol-ryrie-brink]; Rereading Charlotte's Web by E.B. White [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/18012405-rereading-charlotte-s-web-by-e-b-white]; Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13108791-rereading-harriet-the-spy-by-louise-fitzhugh]; Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13900064-rereading-freaky-friday-by-mary-rodgers] The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/] and is available on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/7JDpPFn4qkoK5OS2ym9wUn], Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rereading-our-childhood/id1688532294], and other platforms. You can find Nancy at nancyhudgins.com [https://nancyhudgins.com/], Deborah at deborahkalb.com [https://www.deborahkalb.com/] and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago [https://mylife100yearsago.com/]. This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting [https://www.bespokenpodcasting.com/]. Podcast website at rereadingourchildhood.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/]

Rereading Deenie by Judy Blume, with Alex Poppe

Writer Alex Poppe joins us to talk about Deenie [https://bookshop.org/p/books/deenie-judy-blume/158771562a609221?ean=9781481410366&next=t], Judy Blume’s 1973 novel about a girl, pigeonholed as the pretty one in her family, whose life is thrown off track when she’s diagnosed with scoliosis. Alex is the author most recently of the memoir Breakfast Wine [https://bookshop.org/p/books/breakfast-wine-alex-poppe/a213ede7cd61abc9?ean=9781627205948&next=t]. Other books by Judy Blume: Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret [https://bookshop.org/p/books/are-you-there-god-it-s-me-margaret-judy-blume/118d507e90c57dfd?ean=9781481409933&next=t] The One in the Middle is the Green Kangaroo [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-one-in-the-middle-is-the-green-kangaroo-judy-blume/bcf54666d0887857?ean=9781481411318&next=t] Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great [https://bookshop.org/p/books/otherwise-known-as-sheila-the-great-judy-blume/64d04128cbe9f457?ean=9780142408797&next=t] Forever [https://bookshop.org/p/books/forever-judy-blume/8bcc819c347053dd?ean=9781481414432&next=t] Tales of a Fourth-Grade Nothing [https://bookshop.org/p/books/tales-of-a-fourth-grade-nothing-judy-blume/d81dc0d78b17d548?ean=9780142408810&next=t] Then Again, Maybe I Won’t [https://bookshop.org/p/books/then-again-maybe-i-won-t-judy-blume/580fa9471f55a538?ean=9781481413657&next=t] It’s Not the End of the World [https://bookshop.org/p/books/it-s-not-the-end-of-the-world-judy-blume/5e2a767d8eb849f8?ean=9781481411165&next=t] Blubber [https://bookshop.org/p/books/blubber-judy-blume/f5e1ff06eba572e0?ean=9781481410137&next=t] (this is the book Alex couldn’t remember the name of) In the Unlikely Event [https://bookshop.org/p/books/in-the-unlikely-event-a-novel-judy-blume/8256bfb4bce33e70?ean=9781101873984&next=t] (this is the adult novel we couldn’t remember the name of) Also mentioned: Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret, the 2023 movie (trailer here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzRzojHC3iE]) Judy Blume: A Life [https://bookshop.org/p/books/judy-blume-a-life-mark-oppenheimer/2bf077d5b300925c?ean=9780593714447&next=t] by Mark Oppenheimer New Yorker review [https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/judy-blume-a-life-and-the-problem-of-biography] of Judy Blume: A Life by Katy Waldman Otherwise Known as Judy the Great [https://bookshop.org/p/books/otherwise-known-as-judy-the-great-a-poetic-ode-to-judy-blume-selina-alko/6ef2765fbed70542?ean=9780316570633&next=t] by Selina Alko, children’s biography of Judy Blume Michigan Daily article about Deenie [https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/b-side/deenie-my-crooked-spine-and-why-judy-blume-is-my-hero/] by Rebecca Smith, a student with scoliosis To Kill a Mockingbird [https://bookshop.org/p/books/to-kill-a-mockingbird-harper-lee/e4db1b064c8dd758?ean=9780060935467&next=t] by Harper Lee Recommended for fans of Deenie: Alex: Fight Night [https://bookshop.org/p/books/fight-night-miriam-toews/39b3668fe3e4fbe8?ean=9781635579789&next=t] by Miriam Toews; “The River Nemanus,” a short story by Anthony Doerr from the collection Memory Wall [https://bookshop.org/p/books/memory-wall-stories-anthony-doerr/1ad977dfbd5cfe20?ean=9781439182840&next=t] Mary Grace: Karen [https://bookshop.org/p/books/karen-a-true-story-told-by-her-mother-marie-killilea/410bf2e45c53fce3?ean=9781504053303&next=t]and With Love from Karen [https://bookshop.org/p/books/with-love-from-karen-marie-killilea/432fa6f0f1391e28?ean=9781504053310&next=t] by Marie Killilea (MG) Deborah: Braced [https://bookshop.org/p/books/braced-alyson-gerber/2fdff9bcc63175d5?ean=9780545907613&next=t] by Alison Gerber Previous podcast episode: Rereading Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/12873352-rereading-are-you-there-god-it-s-me-margaret-by-judy-blume] You can find Alex at alexpoppeauthor.com [https://alexpoppeauthor.com/], Deborah at deborahkalb.com [https://www.deborahkalb.com/] and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago [https://mylife100yearsago.com/]. This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting [https://www.bespokenpodcasting.com/]. Podcast website at rereadingourchildhood.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/]

Rereading The Moffats by Eleanor Estes

We had completely forgotten about Eleanor Estes's The Moffats [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-moffats-eleanor-estes/2d05f4279deaab33?ean=9780152025410&next=t] until a friend suggested that we reread it. Published in 1941, it's the first in a series about four children growing up in small-town Connecticut in the 1910s.  Mentioned on this episode: Other books in the series: The Middle Moffat [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-middle-moffat-eleanor-estes/2c2484e41accba3d?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=dsa_nonbrand&utm_content={adgroupname}&utm_term=dsa-19959388920&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=12440232635&gbraid=0AAAAACfld40Q73L7_ZBjSgVzzFcKf2qbZ&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsYy9-aWAlAMVXE1HAR0jLQmVEAAYASAAEgIJG_D_BwE] (1942), a Newbery Honor Book Rufus M. [https://bookshop.org/p/books/rufus-m-eleanor-estes/a0fd3903ac458b6c?ean=9780152025779&next=t] (1943), a Newbery Honor Book The Moffat Museum [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-moffat-museum-eleanor-estes/ad500a7846de8ca2?ean=9780152025533&next=t] (1983)  Other books by Estes: The Hundred Dresses [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-hundred-dresses-eleanor-estes/f71883dc57becbd5?ean=9780152052607&next=t] (1944), a Newbery Honor Book Ginger Pye [https://bookshop.org/p/books/ginger-pye-eleanor-estes/3702e3b49ed22358?ean=9780544927810&next=t] (1951), winner of the 1952 Newbery Medal Pinky Pye [https://bookshop.org/p/books/pinky-pye-eleanor-estes/f7e91291c994165b?ean=9780544927803&next=t] (1958) Also mentioned: Many Moons [https://bookshop.org/p/books/many-moons-james-thurber/7f5adb77c0c8c58b?ean=9780156569804&next=t] (1943) by James Thurber, with illustrations by Louis Slobodkin "Eleanor Estes: Chronicler of the Family Story," [https://blogs.lib.uconn.edu/archives/2016/01/25/1428/] by Claudia Mills, on the UConn Archives and Special Collections Blog.  "Celebrating Children's Books Week--and a pioneering children's librarian," [https://mylife100yearsago.com/2019/05/04/celebrating-childrens-book-week/] on Mary Grace's blog, My Life 100 Years Ago Recommended by Deborah: The Saturdays [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-saturdays-elizabeth-enright/4f02ab0160f9d7d3?ean=9780312375980&next=t] by Elizabeth Enright; Beverly Cleary's books Recommended by Mary Grace: The All-of-a-Kind Family [https://bookshop.org/p/books/all-of-a-kind-family-sydney-taylor/df90576e0f38b8ac?ean=9780440400592&next=t] series by Sydney Taylor Other episodes: Rereading The Young Unicorns by Madeleine L'Engle [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/2026/02/20/rereading-the-young-unicorns-by-madeleine-lengle/] Rereading Ramona the Pest by Beverly Cleary [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/2024/08/08/rereading-ramona-the-pest-by-beverly-cleary/] Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/2024/05/16/rereading-stuart-little-by-e-b-white/] Rereading Charlotte's Web by E.B. White [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/2025/10/17/rereading-charlottes-web-by-e-b-white/] You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com [https://www.deborahkalb.com/] and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago [https://mylife100yearsago.com/]. This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting [https://www.bespokenpodcasting.com/]. Podcast website at rereadingourchildhood.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/]

Rereading From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konisburg

For the first episode of our fourth (!) season, we reread E.L. Konigsburg's Newbery Medal winner From The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler [https://bookshop.org/p/books/from-the-mixed-up-files-of-mrs-basil-e-frankweiler-e-l-konigsburg/7d7f306d83db0d8b?ean=9780689711817&next=t], which was published in 1967. This book, one of our all-time favorites, has one of the best plot premises of all time: a suburban brother and sister run away from home and camp out at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. Mentioned on this episode: Other books by Konigsburg: Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth [https://bookshop.org/p/books/jennifer-hecate-macbeth-william-mckinley-and-me-elizabeth-e-l-konigsburg/2fcec5627a93c969?ean=9781416933960&next=t] A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-proud-taste-for-scarlet-and-miniver-e-l-konigsburg/202ab3106cf71080?ean=9780689846243&next=t] About the B'nai Bagels [https://bookshop.org/p/books/about-the-b-nai-bagels-e-l-konigsburg/6967065872ddb041?ean=9781416957980&next=t] Also mentioned: Ban this Book [https://bookshop.org/p/books/ban-this-book-alan-gratz/8e7bd8f6ccd88a6a?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=dsa_nonbrand&utm_content={adgroupname}&utm_term=dsa-19959388920&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=12440232635&gbraid=0AAAAACfld43qAuC27umBfzrXO9XvOT24T&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk_WR1eWqkwMVc1xHAR1UbzEJEAAYASAAEgLhTvD_BwE] by Alan Gratz 1965 New York Times article [https://www.nytimes.com/1965/10/26/archives/a-225-sculpture-may-be-a-masters-worth-500000-225-sculpture-may-be.html] about the Metropolitan Museum's purchase for $225 of a statue that may be a Leonardo da Vinci 1996 New York Times article [https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/27/opinion/art-lost-and-found.html] about a cupid statue at the French cultural center in New York that may be by Michaelangelo Post on the Metropolitan Museum website [https://www.metmuseum.org/perspectives/50-years-of-mixed-up-files] about celebrating the 50th anniversary of From the Mixed-Up Files 2017 Smithsonian magazine article [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/fifty-years-ago-two-kids-slept-over-met-museum-and-literary-classic-was-born-180963325/] in which Johnny Doran reminisces about playing Jamie in a film version of From the Mixed-Up Files Recommended by Mary Grace: Freaky Friday [https://bookshop.org/p/books/freaky-friday-mary-rodgers/8489c78831528d32?ean=9780063454118&next=t] by Mary Rodgers Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned: Rereading Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth by E.L. Konigsburg [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/12925606-rereading-jennifer-hecate-macbeth-william-mckinley-and-me-elizabeth-by-e-l-konigsburg] Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13900064-rereading-freaky-friday-by-mary-rodgers] Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13108791-rereading-harriet-the-spy-by-louise-fitzhugh] You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com [https://www.deborahkalb.com/] and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago [https://mylife100yearsago.com/]. This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting [https://www.bespokenpodcasting.com/]. Podcast website at rereadingourchildhood.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/]

Rereading The Young Unicorns by Madeleine L'Engle

For this episode, we reread Madeleine L’Engle’s 1968 novel The Young Unicorns [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-young-unicorns-book-three-of-the-austin-family-chronicles-madeleine-l-engle/6a38f958672af2d4?ean=9780312379339&next=t], the third book in the Austin family series. We discussed 1960s New York, racial representation, family musical evenings, and how absolutely bonkers this book is. Mentioned on this episode: Other books by L’Engle: A Wrinkle in Time [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-wrinkle-in-time-50th-anniversary-commemorative-edition-newbery-medal-winner-madeleine-l-engle/493ab5e95d247d59?ean=9781250004673&next=t] (1962) Meet the Austins [https://bookshop.org/p/books/meet-the-austins-book-one-of-the-austin-family-chronicles-madeleine-l-engle/36108948615c6565?ean=9780312379315&next=t] (1960) The Moon by Night [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-moon-by-night-book-two-of-the-austin-family-chronicles-madeleine-l-engle/af2adc507e8ad8c5?ean=9780312379322&next=t] (1963) A Ring of Endless Light [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-ring-of-endless-light-the-austin-family-chronicles-book-4-newbery-honor-book-madeleine-l-engle/99b65cf0521638d4?ean=9780312379353&next=t] (1980) Troubling a Star [https://bookshop.org/p/books/troubling-a-star-the-austin-family-chronicles-book-5-madeleine-l-engle/f09120648aa53356?ean=9780312379346&next=t] (1994) A Severed Wasp [https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-severed-wasp-madeleine-l-engle/430e0a4f90ef7bf4?ean=9781504047746&next=t] (1983) New York Times review [http://wojciechowska/] of The Young Unicorns by Maia Wojciechowka Blog posts on The Young Unicorns on Pickle Me This [https://picklemethis.com/2019/02/19/the-young-unicorns-by-madeleine-lengle/] (this is the one where the writer thinks L’Engle wrote Dave as a Black character) and Lady Fancifull [https://ladyfancifull.wordpress.com/2017/12/28/madeleine-lengle-the-young-unicorns/] Article on The Young Unicorns [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/movies/heathcliff-jacob-elordi-wuthering-heights-whitewashing.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NVA.jRx5.rUl0pTF4HakE&smid=url-share] by Mari Ness on Reactor 2004 New Yorker article [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/04/12/the-storyteller-cynthia-zarin] about Madeleine L’Engle New York Times article [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/movies/heathcliff-jacob-elordi-wuthering-heights-whitewashing.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NVA.jRx5.rUl0pTF4HakE&smid=url-share] on race in the Wuthering Heights movie (gift link) Other episodes: Rereading A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle [https://rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com/2169533/episodes/13721597-rereading-a-wrinkle-in-time-by-madeleine-l-engle] You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com [https://www.deborahkalb.com/] and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago [https://mylife100yearsago.com/]. This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting [https://www.bespokenpodcasting.com/]. Podcast website at rereadingourchildhood.com [https://rereadingourchildhood.com/]